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A friend of mine went through 7 rounds of interviews for a senior position in a tech company.

The sixth round was actual work, coming up with a preliminary plan for their first 90 days at the company in the position. It took them about a week to pull together and finalize.

The last round was a 15 minute discussion with one of the founders (who has since moved to the board and isn't involved in the day-to-day any more).

About 30 minutes later they got a call from the recruiter saying they "weren't a good personality fit with the founder" and they offered the role to somebody else.

Oh man story time, I just went through this yesterday.

I applied for a government job posting. I have 8-years experience in this particular role, and I've trained hundreds of coworkers for the job — I'm a dream applicant. They request in the posting that I read through their department's rubric on their values and cater my cover letter to it (e.g., demonstrate examples of showing service excellence, sound judgment, creative problem solving, yadda yadda yadda). Takes me an hour or two of what feels Iike writing a college thesis.

I get an offer to advance in the interview. I book off an hour of work for the first round of the interview, lying that it was a Doctor's appointment; then, I come to find it was actually a mandatory presentation asking people to not apply for the job unless they "really want it" because it's emotionally difficult. I consider it a waste of MY time.

Second round they offer me to take their '2-hour virtual exam', only offering it during business hours. I lie to my boss again and attend the session. After showing up on time, waiting for the Microsoft teams invite and getting nothing, I email the talent acquisition person: they are out of office.

The following Monday the lady is back in office, emails me, and offers me another virtual exam slot: 4 hours from now, again during work hours, and again requiring me to request time off from my current job.

Wtf? Is there another stage after the exam? An interview? How ridiculous have job searches gotten where we are expected to jump through endless hoops to satisfy prospective employers. Nobody has time to do this for every single frigging job they apply for.

Tbf the reason why they locked everyone up to elect a new pope is bc one time it took months to do so they made the rule to lock everyone in a room from then on until they selected someone

Sounds like the HR department needs to be locked together in a room with nothing to eat but bread and water.

Promoting within the company is always faster…

Why are people comparing this to a new hire? Apples and oranges people.

Except that current pope has been working with that org for a number of years and is a known quantity vs. some outside guy you're bringing in from the cold. A nice try at an analogy, but it doesn't quite stack up.

To be fair, the Pope candidates aren't random interested people, I don't pretend to know how it works but there's some long process to get to that point for sure

Legit worked for a place that could never seem to land a new hire because they would take forever to decide on someone and when they finally went "okay" they'd have taken another job in the meantime.

They even went so far as to build a spreadsheet showing the direct correlation of that chronic indecision and it's propensity to miss out on hires and it didn't help.

The cardinals didn't have to weed through 1000's of AI generated resumes of people who don't really exist. Lol

Harvard(?) has done studies that the odds of successfully choosing a candidate via the standard interview process is no better than picking names out of a hat.

I had 5 rounds of interviews for a Tier 1 IT job.

The hiring manager and maybe a couple team members are the only ones that need to talk to anyone for an interview for 90% of jobs. 1 interview. If you can't get a measure of the person you're talking to during that then you're not fit to be doing interviews. No reason for all these fucking hoops wasting peoples time.

Depends on if I have the upper hand. market is not great for dev right now.

Plus this is the dumbest meme ever. Ya pope took 2 days to get the job, same with internal transfer hires.

HR and Management justifying their existence

Technology increasing the ability to advertise the position to a wider pool of candidates has accomplished nothing but to make companies paranoid about hiring nobody but the absolute most perfect one worldwide, instead of just picking somebody "good enough" from the smaller local pool of candidates and moving on.

All those interviews, and they just end up hiring North Korean tech workers anyway, Give 'em a break man, things are hard enough over there already!

From my experience it’s usually because management doesn’t want to meet the applicants until person A, B, and C have all individually thought the candidate is worth the upper management team’s time.

Corporations don’t care unless they are regulated to care, but it’s also mixed with some corporations getting lots of flakes for the interviews. A hour wasted of upper management time spent studying up on someone that doesn’t show up for the interview could be a few hundred or a thousand dollars down the drain in “missed productivity”. Still, if they cared about the candidates they would do a team interview, and bring the executive team in right after if they thought the candidate was solid.

Never do free work! Fucking never! If they ask you to do that kind of thing take the amount of time you think it'll take to complete, and take the offered salary for that position to find out how much they need to pay you before hand. No exceptions!!

That's not the best argument, since historically some popes took many years to select. Like, so long it was a major problem and they had to make reforms that included locking the cardinals in a room and taking away everything but bread and water at times.

Good details about the insanity in this Tasting History episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZCs9aMkzBQ