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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

He also solved the crime by knowing the plot in advance

I like Worf's turn as Sherlock. He just keeps meklething suspects until someone yields.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

Data used mass surveillance when he saw your mom

[–] Atlusb@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But to be fair mr Data did misuse AI irresponsiblly also (to create Moriarty)

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] teft@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Geordi is probably also guilty of mass surveillance. He admitted to peeking at the cards in poker for curiosity so how can we know that he wasn't tempted to look through a duratanium door or wall every now and then?

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That was simply because he was a pervert! He would never spy on behalf of the state.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are we talking about how he used AI to recreate his special lady friend the engineer who designed the ship, and then he eventually meets her for real and she’s like “yeah you’re super creepy dude.” Or are we talking about some other weird shit Geordi does?

Then the audience goes on to write a lot of fanfic...

[–] GenesisClimber@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Reginald ~~Broccoli~~ Barclay approves this position

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be fair, didn't Barclay turn himself into a panopticon by enmeshing his brain with the ship's computer that one time? Is it a loophole in "mass surveillance" if you just happen to have eyes all over a starship?

[–] GenesisClimber@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

His excuse (in retrospect) was "Alien technology did this to me, so how can I refuse?!" 😄 Plus, the mass surveillance existed on the ship before him and all crew members seem to be fine with that when signing on. Given who he was before and during the event in question probably caused a few people, like Deanna, to ask Geordi to do in her quarters what he did in the conference room for privacy.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Also without using AI. Oh wait...

[–] Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He didn't need to, the Enterprise had all the internal and external sensors to do it for him.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You can just ask the ships computer where anyone is at any time. Seems like a big privacy violation from the get go.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

"Computer, locate Ensign Boimler"

"Ensign Boimler is in the Emergency Medical Crisis Lavatory on Deck 4."

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Part of the difference is that most Starfleet officers have the discipline to not do such things. A point that was brought up in TNG s1e26 "The Neutral Zone":

PICARD: I'm Captain Picard.

RALPH: Excellent. Now, maybe we'll be able to get some things straightened out.

PICARD: We may indeed. Those comm. panels are for official ship business.

RALPH: If they are so important, why don't they need an executive key?

PICARD: Aboard a starship, that is not necessary. We are all capable of exercising self-discipline. Now, you will refrain from using them.

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are still plenty of foreign visitors on the Enterprise, not to mention all the literal children living there. I always found the reasoning provided by Picard there rather silly.

[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think "reasoning" is the right perspective to examine Picard's comment from. He's not making a debate point, Picard is politely telling Ralph that he's acting like an assclown and that it WILL stop.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Plus the computer can figure out who is using it, and lock them out as necessary. "Hero Worship" has Data point out to a child that he couldn't have blown up a starship by leaning on the console, because it can detect that, and not register the controls. And we know that there are ship functions that are keyed behind an authentication code, like the self-destruct system.

But he probably doesn't need to explain that to Ralph, since it'd not be that relevant. What'd be more important in that moment to get him to stop causing trouble.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The rod was still firmly crammed up his chiseled ass at that time. After the Borg and Data's 1st death, he became a touch more grounded and cynical.

[–] Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Well it's a utopia, not a dystopia. Or so it has been shown to us.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Can you? The only people who we've seen use that feature are people who would be the authority to do so anyway, like the Captain/First officer.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Does he? He could literally be interfacing with the holodeck off-camera and know everything about the program.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago

He could... but he won't, bc ethics (and a desire to be more human) 😁

[–] frigidaphelion@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

mass spectrometry is a form of mass surveillance

[–] gens@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

Looking at a mirror that is behind me is m'ass surveilance.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

jokes on you, though. he has material substance, and he has eyes. mass surveillance, you rubes!

[–] notarobot@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Stop it. You are confusing the cops. You are telling them to not use mass surveillance but to refer to Data

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean… how do you know what sort of api calls he’s making and databases he’s querying on the backend?

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know if he actually has wireless access.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, after all, he is (wiggles eyebrows) fully functional. He probably just needs to erect his antenna.