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[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 1 year ago

Dang, that's wild.

I'm still not going back to the office.

[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

"If you refuse to return to the office, we will assume you work on behalf of North Korean intelligence, and will be monitored by our WFH bots. Please keep your curtains open."

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 23 points 1 year ago

So this is how the government is going to try and brow beat us back to the office?

[–] SomeGuyOutWest@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It sounds like the companies did a shitty job of hiring and didn’t confirm that these people weren’t spies.

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

That would require a background investigation along the lines of one the US government conducts for SECRET clearances and above. This was the private sector, not even government contracting. HR isn't going to probe anybody's background that deeply (and even basic tradecraft training would hide any of the signs from them).

[–] HairHeel@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

Is it the employer’s responsibility to determine that somebody is or is not a spy? Like the scam here was to do the actual job and send money back, not to steal company information etc. companies have legal obligations to make sure people are authorized to work in the US etc, but the government sets those standards. If you’ve got convincing enough paperwork, it’s the governments job to enforce this stuff, not the employer.

That said, I’ve interviewed several remote people who were clearly using fake identities and also clearly didn’t have the skills for the job. Seems obvious their scam was to just collect a paycheck doing nothing, so if that’s the same group, then the employers bear some fault for hiring unqualified people… but on the other hand if the North Koreans were actually doing the jobs they were paid for, no reason the company should care.

[–] vatniksplatnik@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Federal authorities say that thousands of information technology workers contracting with U.S. companies secretly sent millions of dollars of their wages to North Korea for use in its ballistic missile program

The workers used various techniques to make it look like they were working in the U.S., including paying Americans to use their home Wi-Fi connections

Greenberg said any company that hired freelance IT workers “more than likely” hired someone participating in the scheme.

“We can tell you that there are thousands of North Korea IT workers that are part of this,” spokeswoman Rebecca Wu said.

Wow this is so much bigger than I initially thought. Just how many companies were duped into hiring North Koreans?

[–] SugarApplePie@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

lol and lmao

[–] RickRussell_CA@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Before reading the article, I just assumed that N. Korea had hacked a game with loot boxes.

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Court documents allege that North Korea’s government dispatched thousands of skilled IT workers to live primarily in China and Russia with the goal of deceiving businesses from the U.S. and elsewhere into hiring them as freelance remote employees. The workers used various techniques to make it look like they were working in the U.S., including paying Americans to use their home Wi-Fi connections

Dang what kind of Wi-Fi Access point are they using to reach from the US to China.