Whatever happened to the right wing talking point of “Take care of our country first”?
this post was submitted on 30 May 2025
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Remember when the right thought The Jewish bankers controlled the world. They made whole documentaries on it and everything. Crazy how fast the beliefs of all groups shift from year to year.
They still believe it, but at the same time they respect those Arab killing strong men.
The right always prefer strong men above everything else. Even their own countries.
The right wing part focuses on the eschaton with Israel in their death cult.
I love learning new words, what's this one mean!?
Oh...oh dear.
Oh for fucks sake, the heat death of the whole universe isn’t enough they have to speed it up? Religion is a hell of a drug.
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This is both true, and not entirely accurate.
Israel spends something like $24 on their defense. The $3B that the the US gives them (and it's $3B, not $4B, based on what I can find) is largely in the form of military materials: ammunition, bombs, air defense systems, etc. So what we give them is about 20% of their total defense spend, and yeah, that's a lot.
But the flip side of that is that American workers in American factories are the ones building the bombs, missiles defense systems, making the bullets, etc.; the money that the gov't gives Israel ends up creating a benefit for workers in the form of work that wouldn't otherwise exist. I'd have to see a real economic analysis, but this might be a case of each dollar that the gov't spends creating more than a dollar of effect. (And yeah, I know that a lot of that effect is going to e.g. Raytheon shareholders rather than line workers. But still.)
BUT
The fact that we see an economic benefit in terms of jobs and growth by giving Israel aid doesn't mean we should. Because we're directly funding the genocide of the Palestinians.
Israel spends something like $24 on their defense.
I assume there's supposed to be a B on the end of that figure. But it's funny picturing them spending just twenty-four bucks.
Yes, $24B, sorry.
If they spent $24.00 on their own defense, and the US gave them $3B, then, uh, they'd be 100% dependent on the US.
Imagine spending that 3 billions on American health care workers.. rather than Raytheon
It wouldn't even be noticeable. We spend a total of about $4.5 trillion [EDIT: on healthcare]; $3B is 0.07% of that total.
And, BTW, we have terrible outcomes for how much we spend.
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Countries with nukes should never receive any aid for anything, ever.
That should be the price of having nukes.
What’s the logic behind this statement? Is it just that nukes are bad?
The logic is that if you put the world at risk, there should be consequences for that.
If you want the world to come running when you fall on hard times (and this can hardly be considered that, yet aid comes all the same) then you should give up your weapons of mass destruction.
If there's no consequence for having them, eventually everyone will have them. And then very rapidly nobody will. And that won't be a good day.
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Democrat/Republican is all a smoke show. They both agree that Israel deserves our money. You're not allowed to question it. You're not allowed to boycott them. Even bringing it up is anti-Semitic activity.
If you want to know who the real bosses are, look at who it's illegal to criticize.
In Texas, it's literally illegal for governments to buy products or award contracts to anyone who denounces the actions of Israel.
Like: when I was analyzing bids for janitorial services for City Hall, I was legally required to vett the bidders' stances on Israel.
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Isn't that all military equipment?
Which is worse. Like it's not that the US is subsidizing something good like higher education, but rather bombs and guns for faster genocide?
Money doesn’t have labels on it. If they don’t need to spend their own money on military they can spend it on other things. So you could argue the US is at least indirectly funding these things.
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Which is worse. Like it’s not that the US is subsidizing something good like higher education, but rather bombs and guns for faster genocide?
Israel is more likely to, if American subsidies were cut, to strip their social benefits than reduce the operations of a core aspect of their state.
Opportunity cost, and all that jazz. Think of it this way - if you were hell-bent on spending 100$ on art supplies per month, and some fellow came up and said "I'll give you 50$ of art supplies per month", what that really does is effectively free up 50$ for whatever else you might desire to use it for.
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The dumbass people in this country didn't get jealous of the universal health care they paid to institute in Iraq. There's no hope.
I was unfamiliar with the national dog of Argentina. I thought it was strange that it looks like a Staffordshire Terrier, so I looked it up and was delighted to learn that it's called the "Dogo Argentinio." Perfect fucking name, I love it.
They look better without trimmed ears.
That's because it takes our tax dollars and turns it around and pays it to overpriced government contractors which is good for "the economy".
It is good for a certain economy for certain people, but it isn't good for us all.
Well... It has those things for the settler population
for all its citizens
[s] What are you talking about? Israel is probably one of the countries that gives it's citizens the most. The results really are admirable. Everyone should really look into how they did it (After miming looking at my phone for a single second) Oh... Oh no... Fuck. [/s].
Seriously though, the word "citizens" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
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