The comments on this post are examples why there are so few women on Lemmy lol.
this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2025
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Yep
It's a vicious cycle.
This sounds like a US thing.
People just don't go to other people saying some random shit where I'm from. Unless they're crazy, beggars, or tourists from the US. If you come to anorher person and don't start your sentence with "excuse me" or "sorry", you're getting ignored.
It's not common but I have had this weird interaction once:
Stop at random convenience store for a drink, take drink to counter, cashier looks up, sees my Dave Matthews Band shirt, and while doing the transaction for my drink says:
"I know that band! I hate that band! Take your shit and get out!"
It was confusing as hell. Who the fuck hates the Dave Matthews Band? 🤷🏻♂️
Personally, can’t stand them, but I support people listening to what they enjoy and the musical tastes of others shouldn’t dictate what anyone else enjoys. Music is art and no piece of art is universal.
Satellite is a solid track, though.
The gate keeping in anything, music or otherwise has always been lame. I want to meet and talk to people who are passionate about things I don't know about and can talk to me about that. I've always found the "you can't like this..." Mentality annoying.
I do.
I also can't stand DMB his voice is obnoxious and all the songs sound the same. Obviously idgaf if you like them and it doesn't change how I feel about people just dont invite me to one of his shows.
It doesn't happen in the US either. These posts are made up social media rage bait.
Both people in this made up conversation sounds like douches.
I've seen it happen when I was in high school. It was usually a call out between friends and 90% of the time it was a led zeppelin shirt. Never seen it between two strangers on the street though
"Name five women who want to talk to you. Oh wait, I'm not one of them."
Beethoven shirt. "Name five songs", "sure, allegro, allegro vivace, scherzo, adagio, andante cantabile."
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th symphonies.
People who wear band shirts, does this actually happen?
I had a person in the grocery store run up to me and recite the first half of a verse to me hoping I'd respond. I said something like "what?" as they pointed to my shirt and repeated themself. I then appropriately finished the verse and smiled.
Nope. Every once in a long while someone will say "Nice shirt!".
… no. Although 2ce when I wore death metal band t shirt while walking my dog a car started blasting one of their songs. At least I thought it was one of their songs…. I went to the show that time and saw them live and they were great so I wanted to support them by buying merch. I have a ton of shirts like that.
My job includes doing a lot of events on college campuses, so I see a lot of t-shirts for classic rock bands. I see a Dark Side of the Moon shirt at nearly every event. I'm a huge lifelong musician and music lover, so I often ask if they've listened to that album. If they have, we have a nice discussion about Pink Floyd. If not, I encourage them to give it a listen, because it is an album that has literally changed people's lives.
One girl told me she hadn't heard it, but her GRANDMOTHER told her it was the greatest album ever made. First of all: Grandmother? That hurt. Secondly, I told her grandma may be right, go listen to that album.
Recently, someone was wearing an Abby Road shirt, so I asked. They turned out to be a huge Beatles fan, and we had a nice conversation about it.
OTOH, one girl had on a Kiss shirt, so I asked her, and she didn't even know that Kiss was a band. She just liked the shirt.
Not everyone asking is looking to start an argument. Often we are just older music fans who are thrilled to see young people embracing the great rock music of the classic era, and want to talk to them about it. Engage those older music lovers, they may be able to tell you about other albums or artists you might like, or tell cool stories about shows they've been to. In my case, I worked for many years on the record biz, and have lots of stories of personal meetings and backstage experiences with truly legendary musicians. Young music lovers enjoy my stories, but if you responded with "name 5 women who trust you," I'd just write you off as a defensive, confrontational jerk, and ignore you. No fun stories for you.
honestly Ive listened to DSOTM, and while I like the songs, it doesnt feel life changing to me
The Wall however…
This is lovely and wholesome, but you're not the type of person the post is about.
Edit: sorry I just realised my comment was kinda glib, so let me elaborate. You didn't specify but I assumed you approached those women with a friendly air, having a genuine desire to have a conversation with them as equals, and said something like "oh I love that album, have you listened to it?" Putting yourself in their shoes, compare that to a guy who approaches them aggressively, having a deep seated resentment for all women, and lashes out with "pretending you like that band huh? Prove it then, name 5 of their songs!"
Thank you for a common sense response to my post. The problem is that ALL standard-issue white boomer men like me have become the enemy, and we all take the blame for assholes who would behave poorly no matter what their sex, age, race, etc.
I have become somewhat activist about sweeping generalizations about people. It isn't right when MAGA Nazis disparage undocumented immigrants as a whole, and it isn't right when young people or women, etc. disparage older white men as a whole. Most of us are decent reasonable people, it's just that the jerks are far louder, so they get the attention.
This was disappointing to read. This post was talking about a specific type of person that was not you, it was not about "how all older white men are the enemy," and you took it personally. When someone gently told you that you weren't being targeted, you doubled down and got even more defensive.
I'm sorry, but no one was making sweeping generalizations. We're talking about a very specific situation that was never stated to be all men.
I don't understand how your feelings are hurt by a post that had nothing at all to do with you. Judging from your comment, you were never one of the bad ones this post was calling out. It'll be okay. And there may be other situations where it makes sense to talk about blanket distrust of men that might make life harder for genuinely good guys, though it's not relevant in this post specifically.
But do you understand how offensive it comes off to equate MAGA Nazis on the same level as mens' feelings being hurt? The rule of law is being ignored, people are being disappeared, we're moving closer to Gilead, and the Lemkin Institute issued a genocide warning regarding MAGA blood libel and trans people. How are hurt feelings in any way comparable?
I wish we could have one post in a woman-centric community sharing difficult situations without one of the good men lashing out because they felt personally attacked.
As a standard-issue white boomer man we should be mad at the assholes for being assholes and not the people who want to avoid the assholes.
Those assholes make us look bad, and there's not really anything we can do but speak up if and when we see it.
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I think the German saying „Der Ton macht die Musik.“ fits very well here. There is a massive difference between you bringing it up as an conversation starter and an incel jerk using it as a challenge.
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Name 5 cats who trust you.
So far I've only got 0.5/5 (my cat only half-trusts me... I tried to bathe my cat once and now everytime I have water nearby she does not trust me lol)
Suddenly realizing how many women I knew have come out as non-binary "Uhhh, uhhh... Well my wife? Wait, no, um, my friend? No, they're not- uh,"
First, name 5 men who trust you.
Good as a general snarky comeback, but tbh doesn't seem appropriate unless the guy is wearing a shirt that says women trust him.
Just checking, if woman asked the exact same question would that be ok? Gatekeeping happens on both sides, not sure how this a male only issue.
Condescension and gatekeeping is never okay. If a woman did this to a man, I would defend the man. So it's not a double standard.
It's just that women frequently deal with this when they partake in male-centric hobbies. When this happens, there's often some element of misogyny at play. So it's okay for us to point out that specific situation and say it's frustrating, and doing so doesn't mean we're saying this has never happened to men, nor that it's morally virtuous for women in subcultures to condescend to men.
Also, this culture war thing is so exhausting. Everyone reads between lines and assumes the worst in everyone.
You mean if a woman insinuated you weren't a real fan by asking you to prove you know more than 5 tracks? Sure, man. That'd be real bad.
Hey, does anyone remember when Morgan Webb was being harassed online for being a fake gamer girl while Adam Sessler wasn't?
I meant if a woman asked this same woman the exact same question, would it be ok? Or is it a problem ONLY because a man asked the question to a woman? I've had men and women both ask me patronzing gatekeeping questions, jackasses are not limited to one sex.
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I mean, if I'm wearing a band's shirt I'll probably know five of their songs so sure.
On the other side of the spectrum I've owned and worn band clothes without even knowing they were band clothes. They were second hand and I liked the logos.
Yes! Who can even name five people they trust!?
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