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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 36 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Something is wrong with this article. It seems strangely obsessed with Thunberg smiling at some point (mentioned several times in the article, with a well-timed shot that makes her appear to smile at a soldier handing her a bun). It acknowledges that the boat was seized "near Egypt", but was it in international or Egyptian waters? Surely that would have been an important detail that any real journalist would like to include? It uncritically cites propaganda points handed out by Israeli officials:

  • the journey was a publicity stunt ("selfie yacht"), not a protest
  • equating the protest as a whole to Greta Thunberg as a person. I had previously mentioned how I enjoyed that the organization did not boast about her participation.
  • Thunberg was more concerned about her ego than about handing some "meagre" aid to Gazans. Yet the aid was confiscated.
  • and the classic: supporting Palestinians means siding with Hamas terrorists.

I had to downvote OP because they could've chosen a better source I'm sure.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 hours ago

The Telegraph is a far-right British tabloid.

Of course they're propagandizing for the Fascist White Colonialism project committing Genocide.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 48 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is an abduction, not arrest. It was in international waters. Countries need to start sanctioning israel

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago

Indeed. The only real reason for a country to detain a boat on international waters is if it is suspected of piracy or slave transport. Or if the boat is legally posing as something it is not, such faking the flag they are sailing under.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 34 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

instructed the IDF to show the passengers of the flotilla a video of the horrors of the October 7

This doesn't remotely justify to do 1000x the same horrors over unrelated innocent people

[–] mcv@lemm.ee 10 points 15 hours ago

If one atrocity justifies another, the atrocities won't stop until everybody is dead.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 156 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They kidnapped her. Get it right.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yeah but telegraph.co.uk

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Israel’s military has been ordered to show Greta Thunberg footage of Hamas’s Oct 7 2023 attack on southern Israel.

Just straight up showing a teenager extremely awful footage as a form of brainwashing and propaganda.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

"Nothing justifies Oct7, but Oct 7 justifies everything"

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Thunberg is not a teenager.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yes that has already been said by pressedhams.

[–] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 94 points 1 day ago

She’s 22, but still.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 29 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The message is obvious. "If somebody hurts you, then any revenge is permissible, even against people whose only sin is living near them. Even if children are starving to death, it's okay if it's revenge."

The lack of humanity in Israel's actions is simply hard to comprehend.

[–] krimson@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

At this point I wouldn't be surprised the attack was staged by Israel to be able to take the rest of the Gaza strip.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Something something suitcases of cash

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Well, have a look in the old Testament, specifically Leviticus 24:17-22.

19 If anyone injures his neighbor, as he has done it shall be done to him, 20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; whatever injury he has given a person shall be given to him.

You know the part that is shared between Christianity and Judaism.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

That's "an eye for an eye," which is already horrible, but is not an escalation. Israel is escalating, "a genocide for a single attack."

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

And if you think about it, it makes NO sense, as humanity would have to destroy themselves too finally get even. Then there's one person left, who won the game. Now it's game over. So dumb.

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 20 points 23 hours ago

It's not like everyone is watching a straight-up genocide or anything.

Hey, look how much less bad this resistance is to our occupation!

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago

They should show the part where they killed their own to prevent them from being captured.

[–] propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 13 points 1 day ago

Fuck zionists.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 64 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm not super up on the details of this situation, but they had to know this would be the outcome, right? This was just bait, to make a point?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 15 hours ago

You say that like it's a bad thing. Yes, this is political activism. Cameras on Thunberg, ready to document in real time how crazy the Israeli government is.

Ther's also the socio-emotional support for Palestinians. It's not just about material aid (though that is extremely pressing today).

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 99 points 1 day ago

Their goal was to get attention, to force the media and public to start talking about it, to force western governments to pretend to care about it, ratchet up the international pressure by another notch. They have done everything they need to be successful at that. Now that they've been seized, it's our jobs to do what we can to make the rest of that happen.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago

The aid on the ship was symbolic. This was a protest action to call attention to Israel's continued blockade of food and other aid into Gaza.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 4 points 15 hours ago

Well sure, they knew this was a likely outcome - because they know the Israel government is batshit. The purpose of the mission was aid and activism. They definitely knew that arrest was likely, but that's not why the did it. They didn't want to be detained. They just want to help the people of Gaza in whatever way is within their power. This is how they chose to do it.

It may not be perfect, but it's definitely more effort and effect than doing nothing. And the more people who get on board with some actions, the more likely they are to succeed.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't think they believed they would be kidnapped and detained in international waters, to be fair.

[–] Slowy@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they did believe that was a strong possibility. I thought her video was a dead man’s switch release that she would prevent from going out if they made it out of international waters.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 20 points 23 hours ago

It was. The video was released as soon as they were taken off the boat.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know why. The USS Liberty incident proved that Israel does this sort of shit.

They're a far right government.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago

This is the sad part. It's not the first and not the last time Israel has acted like this. Still, this protest is putting the media's waning obsession with Thunberg to good use. 👍

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 day ago

To make a point that israel is effectly controlling and occupying gaza and to test the western governments

[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First of all, terrible. Second, that website is horrendous.

Is it not yet time for federated news?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago

Agreed. I'm sure OP could've chosen a better report.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Well, at least she made it to Palestine.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 1 day ago

s/detained/kidnapped