A goddamn shame to call myself a Marine. Any Marine executing these fascist orders are not Marines. They are fucking Traitors. The same goes for any other service member.
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Every single soldier that participates in this should be tried for fucking treason.
Well if they are just standing around and not actually shooting people they are still "participating" but aren't doing anything wrong
Correct.
I was stationed in 29 for a while. They seemed like good people, I hope they still are.
I was in Quantico. Like you, I hope they still are too. Semper Fi, brother.
The rules are already drawn up: it's not fucking allowed
Besides the obvious terrifying escalation this seems like a purposeful gesture to throw every US marine veterans' sacrifices into a heap and piss all over it, I would be livid if I was a veteran of the US marines.
Shit, not just the veterans. The current marines.
Remember, article 90 of the ucmj only requires you to follow lawful orders. Turning your weapons on the same people you've sworn to protect is for sure an illegal order.
That's why they are drafting new rules for it to be legal
Posse Comitatus - I haven't heard ANY news outlet mention it to date. Complete failure of the press.
well, it's been out-loud-and-proud failure since 2016 at least (we're going to skip over Gulf Wars I and II and Afghanistan)
They are owned by republiQans, they print republiQan drivel and they have long ago abandoned any other pretense. Unless you're talking about the Opinion column where they pretend they aren't bought and paid for.
“Difficult” prospect? This administration has wanted to kill Americans for years. They finally have a drunk, stuffed shirt who will have no qualms satisfying his Daddy once given the order to do so. The days of Mattis and Esper are over.
don’t forget the supreme court has ruled anything trump does in office is not illegal. anything “official.” he’s full on “shoot now let got sort them out.”
Posse Comitatus supersedes that. It is specifically a restriction of the powers of officials and a law against an abuse of office. It has nothing to do with the personal shield that the Supreme Court gave him. It's one of the few cases where he would be officially liable for the crime, rather than personally.
Not that any of it matters right now, since these laws aren't being enforced anyway.
Purely to keep the inaccuracy from spiraling: "not personally liable" is not the same as "legal".
They ruled that the person holding the office isn't personally liable for official acts unless certain extremely high bars are passed.
The act can still be illegal, you just sue the office of the president, rather than the individual who is president.
To him it's the same, but since it's not default legal, there's still lines for others to stop at. It's much easier to disobey an illegal order than a legal one.
fair point! thanks for the reply.
Good Job Roberts Court
He'll give the blitzed out of his mind on a 24-pack of piss water
Does he think people will weekly slink away back to their houses and shake in their boots about what Trump will do next? This will only further inflame tensions. This guy wants to Crack down, thinks he can suspend the constitution, and rule with impunity, but what he's really gonna get is a civil war. Everybody loses in a civil war. Fucking countries like Russia, Iran, and anyone else who hates us are probably reveling in the current situation.
Putin is absolutely pissing himself with glee. He could not have done this better.
I'm a 2A Advocate who DEFENDS SCHOOL SHOOTERS because we need GUNS to Defend from Tyranny and I FULLY SUPPORT THIS DECISION TO USE US MARINES AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO ARE PROTESTING THE KIDNAPPING OF CHILDREN!
please include quotes or a /s … ?
You know it's sarcasm because they would never say "kidnap". If asked, those kids had it coming just like the dead babies that voted for Hamas.
No don't listen to this guy. You joke stands firm and tall in the land of absurd punctuation and capitalization.
Do not ever become reliant on the crutch of /s. /S is for the comedically weak. It is false humor that can at best lead only to a light chuckle. If your joke needs /s in order to be a joke then it's not a good joke, and you need to take the L, study the mistake, then move on.
Yeah I'm assuming /s and the tell is the outrageousness but that is almost verbatim the administration's press release