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The bottom line is if we don't do this, America will descend into fascism. It's pretty obvious at this point.
This is it folks. A history book moment. Show up.
America has already descended into fascism, you are doing it to climb out of the hole!
Keep it up, be smart, stay safe and godspeed
We're basically hanging by our finger tips at this point but yes.
ICE is literally state-sponsored terrorism.
So you could call them ICE-IS?
Well, it's the United States. So, ICE-US.
Saw someone call them ICE-ICE and almost spit out my coffee.
It is the party paramilitary of Trump at this point, like the Republican Guard, Rosgvardiya or the SA.
I get the feeling that Saturday is gonna be fucking wild
It costs them $134 million dollars to bring troops to LA for a weekend.
https://discuss.online/post/21624159
I say keep it up.
Fuck yeah! Bleed the fascist fucks dry.
Um, y'all know where they get their money from right?
Sure. Either force them to raise taxes, which will increase unrest further, or make them sell more bonds/take loans. Yes, it'll suck temporarily, but temporary suffering is the price that has to be paid to fight Fascists.
Clearly you don't understand how taxation works. Or what a Deficit is. This is literally the same logic the right is using to justify tariffs and mass deportations.
"We will just make the government waste our money until they can't handle it anymore!" As if we haven't been doing that for decades already.
What a silly take on all this. Zero thought.
Lol. Apparently you don't know how unrest works. It builds gradually... until it's too much to contain.
Also, you are leaving out addressing selling bonds to raise money, like I also mentioned. Taxes aren't the only way to raise money, though bonds/debt don't really cause unrest so not good for us in this scenario.
Yeah I'm the idiot for not believing I can outlast a United States government spending spree.
Have you seen all the wars we've been in the last 25 years? Have you seen our defence budget? Our janitorial budget? Our paper clip budget? Fucking hell. For all the financial suffering you are willing to "suffer through", most goes to corporations. Not the government.
You aren't even a rounding error in the feds books. To do that would make you a multimillionaire.
And the people around you? Yeah good luck. Just a fraction of a percent under fifty percent, believe it or not, they voted for this shit. They have been playing the 'financial suffering for the greater good' card since the tariffs started. And they are better organized and propogandized. Trust me, I've heard it a lot. And they even have hats!
Let's try to come up with some better reasoning before you think your personal morals and convictions can outlast the united states ability to throw money at literally everything...
Yeah, the better idea is to rally the population into a general strike (wishful thinking, I know). 3.5% is the magic number for how much of the population is needed to bring the entire economy to a screeching halt through economic violence.
Yeah I'm the idiot for not believing I can outlast a United States government spending spree.
That's the point. You aren't supposed to outlast it. You're supposed to see that it'll hurt you and do something about it. Fight them! It's not "suffering for the greater good." It's the government doesn't give a shit about you, so stop letting them take your money just to spend it enforcing their authority over the people.
I am going to a wedding Saturday in a big city. Wish me luck folks!
I'm going to a protest, maybe we'll see each other!
Nationwide national guard members: ~433k Military members: ~1.32 million Citizens affected by Trump's policies: ~315 million (population - Trump voters)
Are they sure they want this?
And a minigun shoots 6000 bullets per minute.
what needs to be considered is how many ex military still “pretend” they are military and are all rah rah for this shit.
we are in an incipient civil war.
Purely anecdotal but the two veterans I know that I've spoken about all of this to absolutely despise Trump. I actually talked to one of them today and he was losing his shit about Marines being sent to LA.
Who's they?
And Tulsa. Will be there for that one.
Okay if you're curious and lazy, like me, that's a US/Guatemala friendship flag she's carrying.
Please, wear armor. Bullet proof if you can find it.
EDIT:
DEMO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxRJPVhuxh8
USA is becoming weirder by the minute if it’s a reasonable expectation to find armor let alone a bulletproof one… these aren’t video game protagonists.
It is clear that the police are trigger happy. Armed forces are trained to kill hostiles not calm civil unrest or protect constitutional rights. Trump has opted to deploy marines as well, which are going to be very young. This is all a recipe for disaster.
In my original comment I have included a video tutorial and demonstration for a low budget, thin, light, yet highly effective bullet proof armor plate. If you are going to demonstrations in areas where the military has been deployed, make sure you protect yourself. This is even more important for those acting as medics since they quickly become prime targets in situations like this.
Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.
They sell bulletproof backpacks in the US for children, not uncommonly. Body armor has been recommended for serious protesters for a while. In 2020 numerous average people were shot by right-wing opposition at protests.
That’s soooooo dystopian… at no point this should be common.
There are literally 5-11's all over the country where you can buy bulletproof vests (and other gun related accessories). AmmuNation from GTA isn't a joke. It's just not a real brand name.
Yeah well that should absolutely not be normal. I’m pretty sure nowhere outside USA this is the case. Never have I needed to grab a bulletproof vest from a corner shop in 43 years… how the fuck does this becomes a first necessity item?!
You can just order a bullet proof vest from Amazon.
Not sure I world trust my life to it, but it's not exactly a controlled item.
2 burner phones, one for you and one for someone at home who can bail you out, no other information on either except each other's number. Edit: maybe the number of an appropriate lawyer? Not like you can just call Jared.