Yuan Guaidou
Yeah I'm really not sure. Everyone in the Standing Committee of the Politburo are 60 or older, and Xi has close to five (maybe even ten??) years left.
I feel like 75-80 is pushing it significantly. Realistically the maximum is probably going to be within 2-5, as Xi is still subject to human aging and mental deterioration, and neither he nor the politburo would want a Trump/Biden situation with a decrepit leader.
Chen will become the leader and China will move to a dunk-based economy.
Really though, I have no idea, but a "return to the policies of the Four" seems like the least likely outcome. Looking at the politburo it's hard to make a guess. Maybe Li Qiang, but it depends on how he does. I'd want to say Wang Huning, but I don't think he'd want to be in the public eye like that.
Chen would conquer the world over the course of a week maximum. He would melt all twitter, Facebook, and reddit user's brains till the western population is a paltry shadow of its former self.
But thank you for the insight! I was also thinking Li Qiang, as he seems to be in the most applicable position to take Xi's place, and he has been making strong moves, and in turn drawing attention in the public and international eye. I was unsure due to his age, and overall policies which he hasn't brought to the forefront very much.
I'm very iffy on Wang though, he seems to be much more comfortable and applicable as a political theorist, "commissar" and bureaucrat, so I'm very unsure he'd even want a position like Premier, or do very well as one. Much more a writer then a leader.
Yeah I agree about Wang, he's been high up in government so long but doesn't face the public in any way that I've seen. He's also just a few years younger than Xi. I was hoping there would be some younger members appointed in the last politburo to give a gesture as to where things may be heading once this generation is out.
I'm curious to see how he does, but tbh I hope it isn't Li Qiang.
Is there a particular reason you say that for Qiang? I haven't seen much about him that isn't extremely neutral reporting, so I'm just wondering if there's something I'm missing.
Also while it is a prestigious position, it seems like it is high time to appoint people to the politburo who are in the 30-50 range. The current leadership is quickly aging, and they need to begin setting up, preparing, and training a new generation. A power vacuum would be disastrous, and appointing people in their late 50's early 60's is just postponing the issue by a few years.
His proximity to capitalists doesn't inspire much confidence in me, and Shanghai is a liberal mecca.
I'm not the most knowledgeable about Li (or the inner workings of the CPC), so I could be quite off base as to what he would do. The western press was pretty happy as they see him as someone to give capital more free reign (even if they then try to deride him as a Xi "loyalist"). Though I think they said the same about Xi at some point lol.
Iirc there was some hukou reform under Li in Shanghai, which is good and I hope to see it go further.
Regardless, I think Xi has done enough to set China on a specific path that will likely not be altered beyond recognition depending on who is next, nor would a less influential leader necessarily lead to a power vacuum. It will be interesting to see what happens next though.
Unrelated question, but how do both/either of you find "unbiased" information in English on the political environment within China. I have found it very difficult myself. (Assuming you don't speak Mandarin, that is.)
There are many Chinese news agencies, government agencies, and bloggers that also hold English speaking channels and sites. Reading directly from the source is also very good and is an effective way to build your own opinion, but the most important thing is comparing a variety of sources to see what is corroborated. Chinese government sources, Chinese news, Russian news, bloggers, American news, various political analysts across the globe and so on. Everyone has their own bias which is unavoidable, so you have to sift through it all to put together the bigger picture, and you can never take anything at face value.
Basically, even if you don't speak Mandarin, many Chinese sources will have English translations, and even a basic "site translate" built into a service like google chrome is better then nothing.
I agree with all your points, but I will say that I was referring to a power vacuum in the Politburo itself. A power vacuum caused by many members simultaneously dying, becoming too old to serve effectively, or retiring, might cause a power vacuum which might allow less then qualified or politically nebulous figures to get a foothold in the leadership. Basically what happened in the Soviet Union in the 1980's.
I agree, and hope that doesn't happen. There must be some younger party members who are both committed and ready to move up, and would like to learn more about who they may be.
The more I look into Li, the more I’m worried. He seems like a disastrous figure, a Chinese Gorbachev for lack of better words.
A free market, billionaire bootlicking, Neo classical economics, free trade, no regulation, warhawk neo liberal.
He is everything that liberals claim Xi is, and the western media is overjoyed at the prospect of Li’s leadership. This seems extremely dangerous.
Li Qiang
is he the right wing guy?
More liberal and more of a warhawk, but I wouldn’t say he’s overtly reactionary from what I’ve seen. He is your typical “free market, no government interference”. He wants to ease regulations, and has friends in high places like international investment bankers, billionaires like Jack Ma, the Apple and bridgewater CEO’s, and foreign organizations.
He’s a potentially dangerous figure, but he’s also extremely enigmatic with his policies and beliefs, so it’s hard to pin down exactly what his end goals are, or what a lot of his beliefs are.
I do not have a good feeling about him, he seems to be everything that liberals say Xi is. Which is nothing good.
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