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[–] xiii@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Conveniently you forgot to mention a short list of terrorist groups financed by Iran.

Here you go

  1. Hezbollah (Lebanon) – Iran’s most heavily backed proxy; receives funding, weapons, and training. Operates militarily and politically in Lebanon; hostile to Israel.
  2. Hamas (Gaza) – Though Sunni, Iran supports Hamas with weapons and funds due to shared anti-Israel stance.
  3. Palestinian Islamic Jihad (Gaza/West Bank) – More directly aligned with Iran than Hamas; receives significant Iranian support.
  4. Houthis (Ansar Allah, Yemen) – Iran supplies weapons, intelligence, and training to Houthis in their fight against the Saudi-led coalition.
  5. Kata’ib Hezbollah (Iraq) – Iraqi Shi’a militia backed by Iran; part of the Popular Mobilization Forces; responsible for attacks on U.S. personnel.
  6. Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq (Iraq) – Another Iran-backed Shi’a militia operating in Iraq; heavily involved in sectarian violence.
  7. Harakat al-Nujaba (Iraq/Syria) – Shi’a militia supported by IRGC; operates in Iraq and Syria.
  8. Fatemiyoun Division (Afghan Shi’a fighters) – Recruited and trained by Iran to fight in Syria.
  9. Zeynabiyoun Brigade (Pakistani Shi’a fighters) – Similar to Fatemiyoun; deployed in Syria under Iranian command.
[–] dandylion@lemmy.today 4 points 10 hours ago

I mean, Israel is just the USA's preferred method of conducting proxy wars in the region... Not that the Zios aren't also happy to massacre their neighbours, of course.

[–] dovahking@lemmy.world 29 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

I don't know how they did it, but Israel has made America its personal bitch. Everything they do, America just comes and help them wagging its tail and half of Americans will just nod and follow behind like pups.

[–] rodneyck@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago

AIPAC, it funds politicians on both sides. Our gov't is set up like a mafia payout, and the Zionist are running the show.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

I don’t know how they did it

This is one of the dangers of having a corrupt government in the modern world that is openly for sale. Conservatives might think it's fine that money can and should influence politicians, but they're dead quiet about the fact that the money doesn't have to only come from American sources.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 12 points 22 hours ago

You don't know how they did it? I thought it was obvious, Israel lobbies all of the US politicians: https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

AIPAC - that’s how.

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I believe the Russians refer to it as "kompromat"

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think I can finally relate. I just had a Civilisation VI game last night where I was trying to win by the domination method (I'm still pretty tame, waiting for a casus belli to start a war), but suddenly three civs got way ahead in culture, science and military, so if I still wanted to win by dominating, I had no other choice but to just surprise buttfuck all three at the same time. The aztecs had been working on the space race already.

...so yeah, I guess Israel just realised that they need to chop chop before Iran builds the Mars base.

(obvious /s, it's disgusting how such aggressors can just get away like that)

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I used to play Civ III a lot and one of my favorite strategies was to borrow a bunch of money from a neighbor and then attack and destroy him, which would of course wipe away the debt with the only consequence being that everybody else hated you. It was amusing to learn that this was actually Hitler's strategy with his invasion of the Soviet Union (minus the "destroy him" part, of course). Part of the nonaggression treaties between Germany and the USSR was actually a massive loan to Hitler, adding to the debt that Hitler had already racked up to achieve his "economic miracle".

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Wow, you have yet another thing in common : ). Jokes aside, it's crazy how many things games can teach you about.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 38 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I wonder: would that region of the world have reached some sort of equilibrium if the rest of the world didn’t constantly fuck with them, or would it just be a different kind of shitshow?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The area has a deep and rich history, but also a violent one. Countless of peoples have been actually genocided (as in: nothing remains of them) there several centuries before rest of the world had civilization and therefore any means of manipulating them.

European colonialism lasted roughly during years 1400-2000. A significant time, but also significantly shorter than the history of Middle East.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Almost certainly the former. Same with Africa.

Almost all major conflicts and broken political situations can be traced back to colonialism and/or organized religion.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 6 points 21 hours ago

Almost all major conflicts and broken political situations can be traced back to colonialism and/or organized religion.

The world was a peaceful paradise before colonialism

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

As with other regions, the wars between neighbouring(ish) countries subside with cultural & economic development - if the countries (ever) get to that point (cross several big thresholds). And we don't even have enough data to verify if this is even actually true.

But like Europe, constant warring for millennia up until 19th century, then sure, two really big wars, but you could already see how culture & economy of the masses shifted & favoured peace over war ("even with the stinking neighbours who we are racist towards"), it became harder to entice wars and/or to convince people we need a war with a neighbour.

I feel like this sort of rule of majority (in practice) & low scarcity is the natural equilibrium where huge efforts for maintaining peace aren't required.
(Even both WW were because of this equilibrium shifted massively into huge inequalities.)

African countries (so lower industrial development & big inequalities even on small scales bcs scarcity for basics, like food & life opportunities, exaggerates those) see constant proper wars (1 on 1 skirmishes between two countries or even regions), but since mass starvation became a thing of the past, so did the fighting become less intense.
(Africa is huge tho, generalisations like this aren't representative of actual issues.)

With that I think Middle East would definitely be a much more peaceful place without massive colonialist fuckery over the centuries, or at least without Russia & USA (which covers establishing Israel). Longer lasting stable culture & increasing trade dependency & prosperity + no foreigners financing radical terrorist groups (which comparatively quickly become the dominant power by sheer asset value), yes, I think it would be a much better place & wars a lot shorter.

Now, imagine that Middle East but if the world was already off of fossil fuels for the last century (so less inequality between countries).
Maybe a great (and accessible) active cultural hub between Europe & India?

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Everything improving for the better is part of that "equilibrium." Peace and stability improves education which just makes everything better over time.

When Taliban first took over Afghanistan they had banned women from attending highschool. They later opened up "training courses" with same curricilum as highschools that women are allowed to attend.

Progress is slow, but the many economic sanctions placed on the country doesn't help.

Overall situation is still extremely bad there but the reason Taliban got to run that country in the first place is two centuries of imperialism (The British) so more of it isn't gonna help.

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[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I believe Russia and Israel are currently enjoying joint custody of the US, though Israel has the majority of custodial rights.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 day ago

Russia during official events and gatherings, Israel the rest of the time.

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[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I don't have an answer to how to handle the region, it's beyond me. The Israel state sucks ass and it's committing genocide.

But the Iranian state are also extremist and I don't doubt for a millisecond would do terrible things if it had the support Israel has.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

two things can be bad at the same time

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But certainly three things cannot be bad.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

no, that's heresy. four things though, that can be bad

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