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[–] robolemmy@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I would bet this tracks fairly closely to percentage of pickup truck owners

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Cybertrucks owners drive that even further up

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Of course they are lifted, and squatted! How else are you going to haul groceries from walmart?

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Big dick trucks are expensive

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 weeks ago

Oh it has nothing to do with genitals. Just the owners.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Texas and Wyoming lol not only do they buy vanity trucks but you have to drive at least 30 min to go anywhere. Paying 10 mpg and creating your society as spread out as possible, just to own the libs.

[–] Retreaux@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

I have visited family out there and this is depressingly true.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

West Virginia: Buying a $500 used car in cash
Connecticut: Buying a $50,000 new car in cash

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I make well...very well...quite well into the six figures and a $1000+ car payment seems insane to me.

What the actual fuck.

[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

And most of these assholes are leasing and pay penalties for over milage.

[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

That's nearly half my mortgage in one of the highest COL counties in the country...

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have to assume that its for 2+ cars because 28% of Texas definitely ain't driving around in luxury vehicles... although I guess these big ass trucks really are up there in price these days... But still...

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Reminds me of when a dude I knew was posting on Facebook how gas prices were too high and filling up his two new Cadillac Escalades was getting way too expensive because of Obamacare or something.

God damn we are a country full of idiots.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

I'm in the process of purchasing a house. The current resident used a loanshark to buy the house for her as she could not qualify for traditional financing. After a few years she still could not get traditional financing and the loanshark wants to sell the property. The current tenant is a little upset at me as she views me as stealing the house from under her.

Part of why she can't afford the house and I can is that she drives a Cadillac escalade and I drive a tiny 5 speed hatchback car.

[–] br3d@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Freedom*

*To work really hard so that you can hand it all straight to banks

[–] Scavenger8294@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

fr just work less, spend less money, more free time to enjoy life

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fuck? That's about what I paid in monthly mortgage payments for my house.

[–] aeiou_ckr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Would be nice if house payments (general cost of a home) was around that. At this point the only obtainable thing is a vehicle if someone chooses to have one.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tbh surprises me just how many must be buying new cars too.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Seems so nonsensical to me. Even if you're someone who drives every day there are perfectly serviceable used cars out there for $5000 whos remaining useful lifetimes outlast the repayment period of a new lease or loan.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I know you’re right but gonna ramble a bit…

People still make stupid mistakes buying used because the issue is people wanting / buying far more vehicle than they can reasonably afford. Like you make 30K…maybe a 9 year loan on a 70K vehicle is a bad move.

I’ve had this conversation a handful of times with people that ‘like driving fast cars’ but aren’t really car people. They want to buy that used 50K M series BMW or AMG Mercedes 5-10 years later cause it ‘use to be a 120K+ car’. They then find out that the maintenance/parts costs are still that of a 120K+ car. Not to mention the reason it’s being sold now is it needs a 15K turbo replacement or the like.

Last year I bought a motorcycle and asked the dealer what’s the longest loan term they’ve ever got approved…15 years. For a powersport dealer! I didn’t even know that was within the realm of possibility. They don’t sell anything but toys.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At first it seemed wrong for Mississippi to not be the worst but then the reality of the median wage kicked in and it shows how little people in the state actually can afford.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lot of poor folks driving around expensive ass Chargers, 300s, Escalades, Mustangs, etc well beyond what they can afford in the South. Then parking them in front of a trailer park or shittiest house you can imagine, with kids playing in the dirt around it.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gotta be big-ass trucks for quite a few places. ‘Specially Texas. The other facet would be poor states with lower average income will spend a higher percentage of income on the least expensive cars.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 weeks ago

poor states with lower average income will spend a higher percentage of income

But the graphic uses an absolute USD value of 1000, so percentage of income isn't represented. It seems more like the big ass trucks are an issue in more swaths of the great plains than just in Texas.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Total car payments for a single family? Cars or trucks? Does Texas just have reeealy bad loan rates? (Sure, I would like to say that the difference is because of oversized trucks, but reality is sometimes surprising.)

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does Texas just have reeealy bad loan rates?

I'm going to guess that since "everything is bigger in Texas!", people feel the need to buy tanks with wheels, which tend to be on the more expensive end of the car spectum (outside of luxury and exotic vehicles).

Either way, fuck that. $120,000 pissed away in 10 years for a car (PLUS insurance, gas, repairs...). Don't people want to be able to afford housing?

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It doesn't say anything on how much more than $1,000 is spent. If in state a 2 out of 10 people spend $1,001 a year and the other 9 out of then $999 while in state b 1 out of 10 spends $2,000 a month and the other 9 out of 10 spend $999 then the stats show the are twice as many expensive in state a while in reality the only expensive cars are in state b

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do people not understand how statistical statements work so often? The graphic shows one thing. It shows the percentage of residents who pay more than $1,000 a month on their car payments. That's it. That's all it's claiming to show. That's all it's trying to show. That's all it's supposed to show. Getting mad that it doesn't show 20 other aspects is ridiculous.

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bad credit and poor decisions. Texas has a lot of army bases and it's a pretty well established stereotype that 18-22 year olds fresh out of AIT make really poor decisions when it comes to car loans. Lots of Camaros challengers and mustangs at like 30%, then they get repossessed and sold to the next dumb kid.

Edit: added to the age range.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 10 points 2 weeks ago

This is all you really need to know about people's car payments:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gifYyVTHIfY

You can find this all over YT. It's insanity. For the record, my wife drives a 2019 Camry. I drive a 2012 Fiesta. Both paid off. I only have the Fiesta because my sister wanted to sell it and it was a good deal for the times where my wife and I both need to drive. We were a one-car family for a few years.

[–] jarmitage@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

I can confirm places like Texas and Florida have much worse auto loan rates due to higher delinquencies. Northern states have better rates.

[–] Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

Texans gotta have their giga trucks

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Who can even afford that.

I'm assuming this doesn't include maintenance or insurance?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

My rent was less than that in the aughts.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are people in my hometown that have car payments higher than their mortgage payments.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago

I should appreciate how much work I don't have to do by not having a car to pay for

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

How many of these people live in their cars?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My mortgage is less than that today.

(Although TBF, that's because I bought during the Great Recession -- I wouldn't be able to afford to re-buy the same house today.)

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

I have never had that cheap a mortgage but it is scary when you realize you could not buy your house if you were looking to.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My rent was less than that in 2018!

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oregon is the one that surprises me.

All the other green states are the low income states (except for the north east states like Maine, and that little corner).

But then there's Oregon, right between yellow California, and yellow Washington.

I'm also surprised NY is yellow. I thought the bulk of their population was JUST NYC. And most people in NYC don't even own cars.

Or is this a percentage of car owners only?

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oregon isn’t just Portland. The rest of the state isn’t nearly as developed. Same for NY - yes, huge population in NYC but there’s still a lot of people in nyc suburbs with money and cars.

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[–] jarmitage@mander.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

One possible reason is we don’t salt our roads in winter. Salt causes tons of rust on vehicles, but here you’ll see 1990 Hondas still looking practically new. People seem to drive their beaters forever.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

100% the answer. I miss it so much. They salt like crazy around here and I can't find a car with a solid frame for under $10k.

The Oregon used car market was insane before cash for clunkers. You could buy a car from the '80s for $750 and reliably drive it for 100k mi. more.

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[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So color coding tells us 15 - 19% of people paying more than $1000/m is normal or the edge. I guess this decision is arbitrary, so I suggest a one-dimensional color scale.

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