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The suspect is believed to be Robert Card, a 20-year US Army veteran from Bowdoin Center, Maine.

(according to Telegrams so take with grain of salt)

EDIT: Name confirmed by news.

According to law enforcement, CARD recently reported mental health issues to include hearing voices and threats to shoot up the National Guard Base in Saco, ME.

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[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 148 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The way I see it, the ship sailed on preventing mass shootings in the US with either Sandy Hook or Columbine. The shock of children being butchered gave way to The Discourse (TM) and now a large proportion of the population just accept shootings as a fact of life like car crashes.

Add to that the sheer number of guns in the US, as well as the gun-related brain rot in the general population, you'd need a campaign of concerted government action that would make the war against drugs look like child's play.

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[–] muirc@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Fucking evergreen

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 140 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There were no initial signs of terrorism.

The not-terrorism/terrorism scale really is us-foreign-policy. The article was mentioning that this one event is close to being over the total number of murders in the state for all of 2022.

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 92 points 1 year ago
[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Dudes twitter was shared on reddit, of course he was a Republican and also a transphobe. But then i refreshed and the account was "suspended."

https://twitter.com/RobertC20041800/with_replies?t=F8McyP5jkWQqNIzeeIVFzQ&s=09

totally no motive at all.

although one tweet he liked was one from Ravens QB Lamar Jackson about mental health awareness. so much for that.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cis guy concerned about trans mass shooter becomes a mass shooter. Ok.

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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 78 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I find it hard to understand how someone can shoot about 100 people but police still haven't been to catch him yet. Maybe the vast emptiness of the suburban hellscape that makes it possible.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

they taking cover behind elementary school children.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

pigs don't protect and serve

they just deflect and swerve

and then project with nerve

[–] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Having lived in Lewiston a long time, I can tell you the cops there are all totally incompetent. They're not even murderous psychos that big city police forces hire. Just total dumbasses riding around eating donuts 50 hours a week. The police station is like a five minute drive from where this guy started shooting.

If you drive twenty minutes in any direction it's all woods and camps though. A helicopter can't do shit, there's no surveillance cameras, and very few people to call in tips.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

Cops have to drive 10 minutes to leave a neighborhood at the only exit while a criminal can jump over some fences and flee the neighborhood in like 45 seconds

[–] autism_2@hexbear.net 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)

threats to shoot up the National Guard Base

Schemengees Bar & Grille

if only his GPS didn't malfunction

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Yea clearly sane enough to realize people at the base might shoot back so went with youth league night at a local bowling alley.

At least we can take solace in the fact absolutely nothing will be done about this and the exact same thing could happen again next week.

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[–] AFineWayToDie@hexbear.net 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a very active and dynamic situation. The image of at least one active killer has been released by police. He is armed with a tactical rifle.

Oh fuck, the shooter is still at large? I can easily imagine this getting worse as people go out to try and find the shooter.

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[–] iie@hexbear.net 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

it’s often pointed out that a lot of these guys have npd, which, yeah I buy that, but if npd was the driving factor this would be happening everywhere on earth, or at least everywhere with a lot of guns. What America also has is the diseased atmosphere of a crumbling, self-aggrandizing racist superpower where various segments of society are scapegoated for it crumbling, and you don’t get that in the news or in Psychology Today.

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 72 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You can’t convince me this isn’t some strategy of tension shit. Like other mass shootings are obviously just pissed of crackers or incels who the police refuse to investigate despite being reported.

But this. This guy was mentally ill but somehow still allowed to be trained with military weapons and train other soldiers. And he was released without being fired, reportedly. And this shooting lasted several hours, and now he’s missing?

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 75 points 1 year ago

none of those circumstances are beyond America's baseline level of not giving a shit about people

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[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

looks like another white guy?

[–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml 98 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lone wolf incident then. No radicalization or extremist ideology this time around.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

And he was known to the authorities, but they declared him a good fella and let him go

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[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Gun laws in Maine, they seem pretty lax. https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/maine/

Open carry allowed with no permit, and it's a "castle doctrine" state.

Where's all the good people with guns?

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

On this website, probably

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Almost like you shouldn't let people with genocidal ideologies have guns

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

firearms instructor

army reservist

The mythical "good guy with a gun" to fashoids, checks all the boxes and yet here he is shooting people in the back at a youth bowling league.

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[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago

This is just going to keep happening over and over and over again. It's always a tragedy but never a surprise.

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Let me guess, mental illness?

pain

Also, only a matter of time until we learn they were on the FBI’s radar

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Preliminary reporting seems to suggest that it might actually be a mental illness thing. They reported to superiors that they were hearing voices and were discharged without any restriction on owning high caliber firearms.

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[–] regul@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

How many 9/11s is this so I can understand the scale?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Well under 1. In fact, this article is anti-semitic for distracting the world from Israel's ongoing security issues.

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[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What a terrible cold way to look at this tragedy. Anyway by my math using state populations it's about 1/10th of a 9/11.

Edit: if you use cities as the denominator, its about four 9/11s.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago
[–] Zvyozdochka@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now we wait for more ChatGPT generated thoughts and prayers and the usual "there is just no way to solve this"

[–] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

amerikkka

Gotta admit, it’s the first time I’ve heard of that place since I would listen to this song as a child. The way Fred says “Lewiston Maine” has been deeply wired my neurons and I feel like I just got a nu metal activation code.

Edit: i had forgotten how dog shit this song is, I apologize

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

According to the article he's actually 40 years old and was recently admitted to a mental health facility for two weeks.

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[–] goldfish@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

having lived in rural maine, yes the nature was beautiful but socially it was pretty depressing and impoverished, but not a lot happens there so an 80-person mass shooting - I'm both really surprised and not very surprised at the same time :/

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