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Republicans have a racist new idea amid the war on Gaza.

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[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 103 points 1 year ago

We need to expel House Republicans from the country. They are a far greater threat to America than Palestinians.

[-] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Good fucking luck with that though. Voting blue is the only way to do that, but Democrats largely are not motivating younger voters. Republicans with their scare tactics and xenophobia and racism, really fire up their base, the best Democrats really do is "hey, we're not that" which I mean... Good, but they don't fire up people to vote.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Democrats suck at motivting young voters, cause young voters don't want to vote for some living archaeological site that supports bullshit like Israels fascist extermination campaign WHILE providing them the weapons to do it.

[-] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Username does not check out

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 year ago

Oh but it does.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Didn't all the pro-palestine groups just threaten Biden with no votes unless ceasefire? It's almost like he's not actually the problem. How does this factor in their calculations?

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago

There's something about the middle east that makes everyone adopt idiotic self defeating positions often with a pinch of moral bankruptcy. Can't quite put my finger on it (jk it's organized religion and nationalism).

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The natural gas under Gaza is also a factor

[-] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

And decades of colonialism to establish a state able to project power for Western interests in the middle east

[-] fleabomber@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Did they twist their mustaches at the same time?

[-] Machinist3359@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Domestic fascists took some notes from their buddies abroad.

(The note was, "but hamas")

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

That's a very misleading headline.

(The bill would) require the Department of Homeland Security to refrain from issuing visas or granting refugee, asylum, or temporary protected status to anyone holding a passport issued by the Palestinian Authority. It would also revoke visas and refugee or asylum status for anyone who was granted it on or after October 1.

Proposing a bill that stops new and recent visas is vastly different from wholesale booting all Palestinians from the country like the headline implies.

Still a shitheel move imo, but not mass ethnic "resettlement" the headline brings to mind.

[-] outrageousmatter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Is this not a violation of the 14th amendment at all. What if some of the palestinians were born in america, even if the supreme court is radical, the 14th amendment is so clearly stated, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

It is clearly written, and they cannot interpret state being only states and not the federal government they must pass an amendment to overturn it, and it is clearly that the last line "Nor deny any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of laws", basicially states you cannot deny an american his right to being equal and does not state, if it is only state law and if they fuck with it, it could unleash all hell as now anyone could have there citizenship taken away by the federal government because of what nation they from.

Maybe just the ones who may be members of Hamas?

But yeah sure let’s codify the Muslim Ban into law (where I see this ending up).

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Well, hamas is recognised as a terrorist organisation, the US is already probably arresting or deporting known members.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s what I thought, but I wasn’t sure if the policy was as explicit as something like “expel them all”. Maybe it is though.

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m guessing it’s the same policy as with any other terror group. Prosecute them, jail them if guilty*

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__ __ __ __ __ __ __ *Not always, look up Guantanamo bay. Most surveillance laws post 9/11 are really scary and give a huge amount of power to nsa and fbi to watch over any American without a warrant. Check Edward Snowden on Wikipedia for more information

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Most surveillance laws post 9/11 are really scary and give a huge amount of power to nsa and fbi to watch over any American without a warrant

It's cute how it actually tries to let them spy on adjacent countries, up to 100mi past the border (or, most of the habitable part of Canada).

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

As if they weren’t already spying on every nation they feel like it by simply outsourcing that to google

[-] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I wasn’t sure if the policy was as explicit as something like “expel them all”

FTA:

The Safeguarding Americans From Extremism Act would require the Department of Homeland Security to refrain from issuing visas or granting refugee, asylum, or temporary protected status to anyone holding a passport issued by the Palestinian Authority. It would also revoke visas and refugee or asylum status for anyone who was granted it on or after October 1.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

It would also revoke visas and refugee or asylum status for anyone who was granted it on or after October 1.

That's a fucking dick move

[-] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

"Are you now or have you ever been in a terrorist organization"

They'd never think to lie right? Like, that'd be illegal something terrorists are very concerned about, and yet for some reason that question is on immigration, security clearance and gun sale background checks.

I'm quite sure there's a heightened background investigation for immigrants, but I like to make fun of the existence of that question.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Wildly speculating but... Having been a member of a terrorist organization may not itself be illegal. But submitting false sworn statements could be.

[-] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Well submitting false sworn statements definitely is illegal so you may have a point. Especially since it includes the "have you ever" part, instead of just currently.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So.... you may think it's stupid, and lets be honest, anyone who answers "yes' is pretty freaking stupid.

but there are plenty of absolutely dumb-as-shit people. Why not leave it in there and let some of them sort themselves out.

[-] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah sure, it doesn't hurt anything to leave it in lol

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

“Are you now or have you ever been in a terrorist organization”

Probably end up with a lot of dumb fucks going "Hell Yeah I am, Brother! Trump 2024!"

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago
[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The only time Republicans have ever spoken the truth.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Who was it who said "listen to conservatives: they'll tell you who they are" ?

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

"Are you now or have you ever been in a terrorist organization"

We even HAVE a McCarthy.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago
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