this post was submitted on 30 Nov 2023
307 points (99.7% liked)

worldnews

4836 readers
1 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil. Disagreements happen, that does not give you the right to personally insult each other.

  2. No racism or bigotry.

  3. Posts from sources that aren't known to be incredibly biased for either side of the spectrum are preferred. If this is not an option, you may post from whatever source you have as long as it is relevant to this community.

  4. Post titles should be the same as the article title.

  5. No spam, self-promotion, or trolling.

Instance-wide rules always apply.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 30 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 48 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Also known as slaves, since they are not paid, not allowed to go to school or leave, and beaten and cut as punishment.

Stop eating slave chocolate, folks.

There is ethical chocolate available.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Where is that mythical ethical chocolate?

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tony's is one of the bigger brands. Even they will admit their efforts aren't always perfect but it's about constant audits to keep the supply line safe

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I know about Tonys's. Do you know where I could find the findings of those audits?

[–] TimTamJimJam@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

But that isn't an audit report, is it? Just pr material that they themselves produced.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

It used to come in an annual report but I couldn't find the last few years

https://tonyschocolonely.com/uk/en/annual-fair-reports/annual-fair-report-2019-2020

[–] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Look for fair trade. (Endandgered species chocalate is pretty good) they all still have shady practices ofc but you will get better chocalate!

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I eat chocolonely, it's in supermarkets near me.

Here's a list of ethical chocolate companies:

https://www.slavefreechocolate.org/ethical-chocolate-companies

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Mythical? It's at Aldi!

[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, where?? So I was already avoiding Nestle, now I find out Mars is in on this shit too. Is there any chocolate I can eat that isn't born from child slave labor? Are Reese's ok? I just want chocolate without supporting literal slavery.

Edit: just saw your other comment

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Most supermarkets these days have ethical chocolate alternatives. Their brands aren't as well-known so you might not notice them unless you're looking for them, that was my case.

Then the first time I looked for ethical chocolate, chocolonely was right there on display in the first Safeway I walked into.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What if we keep eating slave chocolate, but we make the slave owners buy "freedom cocoa" credits from places where cocoa is being farmed ethically already?

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then we'll be prolonging unnecessary child slavery and abuse.

They're slave owners, their profit margin is pretty wide and their industry standards are not very strict, as you might imagine.

The most effective way to end trafficking/slavery linked to chocolate is to stop buying slave chocolate.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It's mocking carbon credits.

[–] BenadrylChunderHatch@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Most of the farmers producing the cocoa in your chocolate have themselves never tasted chocolate before.

[–] satan@r.nf 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's fine because the slaves are in the other country and we get to call ourselves pioneer of human rights and green power to live guilt free. It's totally not by design, no sir.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Idk what you mean by "other country."

Are those like big, not-here states?

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When it comes to chocolate it seems the only ethical option is not to consume it.

[–] betweenthesixes@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Here is a company that is trying to do the right thing: Tony’s Chocolonely

Note: I am not affiliated in any way, but simply heard about them via another story.

[–] Hello_there@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

Pbs newshour and John Oliver have done stories on them in the past few yes

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago

They are paying more money per tonne of cocoa to the slave owners... I don't see any indication that this "living wage" actually goes to the slaves themselves tho.

https://tonyschocolonely.com/int/en/our-story/news/why-we-wont-stop-paying-a-higher-price-for-cocoa

[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ethical option would be for them to pay adults properly so the children dont need to work

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

The producers have been saying that is going to happen for decades and it has not.

That is why I say there is not guarantee that any chocolate is produced ethically.

[–] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sugar and coffee are also like this. Abolish capitalism faster, pls!

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

They are still working with Russia as well.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Literally every major food company does stuff like this. It's one of the countless problems with unchecked capitalism.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Whether you intend to or not, you're suggesting everyone should blow this off and ignore it.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

No, I'm suggesting seizing the means of production.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago