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[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 102 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Wanna explain why you were kissing the ring for two years then, Paul?

[–] Aidinthel@reddthat.com 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Whatever values they claim to hold, in the end conservatives only recognize one virtue: power.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Not even. It has to be tyranny. They don't respect power on its own.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Powerful cowards’ what an archetype, eh? It’s such a strange combination. It’s like- tuna flavored ice cream.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

Cowards crave power because it allows them to lash out at what they fear (ie everything)

[–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 11 months ago

Tax cuts. Remember when he helped pass a $1.5 trillion unfunded tax cut for the wealthy then resigned? That was the only issue he cared about, and he cared more about that than about being honest about Trump's behavior

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

"I didn't know" you will probably hear.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

for the tax cuts he promised to his wealthy backers

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 64 points 11 months ago (2 children)

“…who I gladly enabled as much as I could for as long as possible…”

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

For as long as it benefited myself.

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I feel like politicians are taking advantage of how short the average U.S. person's attention span is. (Mine included)

"LOOK OVER HERE" politician says, as they do a bad thing in the opposite direction

"Hey, wait a minute..." Some people

"HEY LOOK AT THAT GUY" politician to one of the people noticing

And the heads just keep turning, the pitchforks keep coming out, and soon it's a jumbled mess of misinformation, distraction, confusion and in-fighting.

How do we even begin to fix it?

[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Its not even about short attention span. Its a trick as old as time and right out of the fascist playbook.

Gish gallop

Nobody can keep up with all the bs

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

You can start by paying attention to who the bad guys are and remembering their names, or at least their party affiliation. The same ones turn up over and under most of the time, so it's not as big a task as you would think.

As for fixing the attention span of people who just can't be bothered, I have no idea.

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

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Never forget, Paul Ryan bent the knee.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 11 months ago

Bent the knee and polished the knob

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 11 months ago

Oh no, I'm throwing up in my mouth!

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hmm sure but even if it's not forgiven, maybe looking forward seeing he has changed his mind at least

[–] GuidoMancipioni@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

It doesn't really matter when he willfully overlooked so much to even make this assertion, and then to follow through with it as well. He KNEW what he was when he made this statement, same as the new statements.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know, one thing I'll give Liz Cheney and Kinzinger, they weren't afraid to speak the truth while still in office. Spineless fucks like Paul Ryan here might've actually been able to do something if they had.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

What’s the point of getting elected if you aren’t there to do the right thing at all costs, even losing your seat.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

'And yet, I'm gonna vote for him anyway'

-Also Paul Ryan (probably)

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago
[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Fuck Paul Ryan. Traitor shitcunt, like nearly all other republicans. Fuck off and die.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Well, duh. It's not like you didn't contribute to putting him in power you ass.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Too little, too late, you spineless sycophant.

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 13 points 11 months ago

Paul Ryan is mostly upset that Trump beat him to it.

[–] PowerGloveSoBad@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

From a leaked 2016 recording while this righteous asshole was Speaker:

McCarthy: "There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump. Swear to God."

Ryan: "This is an off-the-record. No leaks, alright?"

McCarthy: "Alright."

Ryan: "This is how we know we’re a real family here."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Uhhh this is exactly why his followers love him.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

We truly are a docile populace

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is a compliment coming from Ryan.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I absolutely despise Paul Ryan, but he is nothing if not a libertarian in Republican clothing. The man hates Trump almost as much I hate him.

[–] Jaeger86@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Is that semen on your black eye?

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Paul Ryan isn't always wrong.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

One of those things is not like the others.

Populism, in the American context, was a proto-leftist movement with a "fuck the bankers" vibe. I believe it had the most traction during the depression with dust bowl era farmers, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong on that. Regardless, it was a popular bottom up political movement, which is why it's been vilifed by the ruling class and media ever since.

Yes, I know there are people who label themselves as right wing reactionary populists, but letting them freely co-opt that political movement is akin to letting the National Socialists co-opt a socialist movement.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Donald Trump is “not a conservative”, the former Republican House speaker Paul Ryan said, but “a populist, authoritarian narcissist”.

He was speaking to Kevin Kajiwara, co-president of Teneo Political Risk Advisory, in a podcast interview recorded in November but widely noticed this week.

Voices on both sides of the main political aisle have criticised Ryan for not strongly opposing Trump when he ran for the Republican nomination in 2016, or through four chaotic years in the White House that ended in the deadly January 6 attack on Congress.

Kajiwara asked Ryan how he thought history would judge Kinzinger and Cheney, conservative Republicans from Illinois and Wyoming who stood against Trump and sat on the January 6 committee before being forced out of Congress.

Historians searching for the roots of Trumpism have generally looked to the 1990s, when another Republican speaker, Newt Gingrich, turned Congress into a scorched-earth battleground; to the rise of Fox News; or to opposition to Barack Obama, the first Black president, particularly through the Tea Party movement.

Ryan, an economic conservative who was Mitt Romney’s running mate in 2012, continued: “There has to be some line, some principle that is so important to you that you’re just not going to cross, so that when you’re brushing your teeth in the morning, look yourself in the mirror, you like what you see.


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