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[-] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know I’m not dreaming simply from the fact I can even ask if I am dreaming. When I’m actually dreaming the most random stuff can happen and I don’t even question the fact that it must be real

[-] Stelus42@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

I think the idea is to form a habit or a tick that is so strong it carries over to your dream. So like, if you commit to wearing a watch everyday, and check it every 5 minutes, eventually you'll do it in your dreams too. Then, you don't have to intentionally check whether you're in a dream, hoprfully you'll just catch the time being wildly different and be like "holy crap this was a dream??"

[-] indepndnt@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Yes, that is correct. It's one of the strategies you learn when you start diving in to lucid dreaming. Another is to look at some writing (maybe even this sign) and look away and look back, it will say something else if it's a dream.

I got really into lucid dreaming when I was younger, but I couldn't fly because I guess I just have no imagination, so I gave up.

[-] guy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I can lucid dream. Not always. And to varying degrees of success. The dream still has some control over me sometimes I and I can only do some things, like fly from danger, or decide to erase something that went wrong and do it again. Or just choose to wake up, that's quite odd.

But there are times where I have full control and it's god damn amazing. The ability to control space, time and narrative to my will and know there are no consequences, yet still feel like it's real, emotions, senses.

Though often the more I have control, the closer I get to waking up, so it can be short lived, plus it has led to sleep paralysis, so tread carefully. However a weird thing that sometimes happens is I know I'm about to wake up, so decide not to and just continue dream, it's very hard to achieve, but it's possible.

Strangely I don't have any techniques to lucid dream though, it's just an innate sense I developed as a child to combat frequent bad dreams.

[-] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I can get that "wait, this makes no sense, I must be dreaming!" vibe a fair few times a week, but I never know what to do once I reach that state, because then it just feels like...thinking, lol. And I prefer the random bullshit my brain comes up with by itself.

[-] Bloodwoodsrisen@lemmy.tf 4 points 1 year ago

I will often turn to another character in my dream and go "this is a dream" often times they'll agree.

Plus i can't punch or harm anyone even when i desperately want to

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly why I supported your stance on kumquats, Mr President. Now hurry, the pterodactyls need you for this year's cotton ball festival. I'll pack the dental floss, you get on the Komodo dragon and let's show them how a couple of old school icecreams party.

[-] bobotron@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago

Ahhh like an old favorite of mine

[-] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

DON'T PLEASE DON'T JUST COUNT YOUR FINGERS PLEASE

[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Genuine question, why not?

[-] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem is mirrors don't have a certain appearance, they change texture based on what's in front of them and because of that the brain doesn't have a static model of it so the brain just mixes everything you've ever seen in a mirror together while trying to render it

Some people see just normal things some people see nothing and some see real fucked up shit like their face getting torn apart or something. If you panic while looking at a mirror in a dream, your brain knows what you fear way more than you

Another thing to consider is the human brain being also able to render really high quality images and animations.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Oh that's interesting, I didn't consider that, by the way is the brain really capable of reproducing life-like experiences or do we just fool ourselves into believing that our dreams were somehow more organic than they truly are?

[-] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't know and we might never know. Brain creates the image and watches the image

But in my experience with lucid dreams objects have really high quality textures. You can even feel the bumpiness when you touch them it's mind blowing

I hate to say it but I have an IQ of 130 maybe that's why my dreams are extremely high quality

Only stuff with complex random patterns which you don't see regularly in real life have sections you can't remember. Sometimes those sections are filled with other parts of the object, sometimes they are filled with a generated pattern. These "filled" sections are generally blurry or smudgy

Some experiments I made:

  • If you try to "load" a lot of these complex objects world just starts shaking and crashes.
  • You don't wake up at morning if the world crashes, you just wake up at the middle of the night. And if you have a smartwatch the sleep graph shows that you jumped from directly REM to Awake, skipping light sleep
  • I set up a recording of myself saying "can you hear me inside the dream" to play while I'm in the REM cycle. You can hear the real world inside a dream even when you're not lucid
  • When you tell dream characters "you're a part of my dream. You're not real" they panic and scream in fear while running around which "crashes" the dream
  • I generally create a "god" which helps me manage the world much easily. One time I asked that "god" to show me a color I've never seen. It was beautiful, kind of close to magenta but words can't describe the beautiful color I saw there (or maybe thats what my brain wants me to think)
  • Computers and phones doesn't work. Icons and text look garbled
  • Physics are glitchy. Objects fall in fixed speed unlike the real world. There's literally no impact response. Collisions either feel like you hit an immovable object or cussions
  • Light is not simulated as individual photons. In other words your brain doesn't have RTX. Reflective objects like mirrors dont work. Turned off screens and cars simply dont reflect anything, they just look either matte or glossy.

I feel like I'm writing a bug report to god lmao

Those are my personal experiences anyways. Idk if everyone's dreams work like that

[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gold mine of a post thanks for sharing your experiences.

when you tell dream characters they aren't real they panic and scream in fear

This one is particularly interesting, do you have any further details like what exactly they scream or why this might happen. Are dream characters psudo-sentient consciousnesses like tulpas that literally have an existential crisis when you point out the nature of their reality?

Have you ever tried to render and touch a highly complex mathematical/abstract object like the Mandelbrot set? This may be a good way to test just how much 'resolution' your brain can render since fractals contain infinite detail.

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[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's actually really cool, I never experienced lucid dreams so that's why I was asking.

I feel like I'm writing a bug report to god lmao

Got it, removing dreams altogether in the next patch, enjoy the void suckers ;)

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[-] Goatsgotohell666@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

If I was dreaming I would not be able to read that sign. Words would be all blurry and jumbled.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Not always, I find words perfectly legible in dreams but the text will change if I look away and look back again.

[-] pec@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

I Google stuff in my dreams all the time and it legible. But then when I submit the query it wakes me up because my brain is all like "dude you are the computer simulating this entire dream world you ain't connected to the internet. Googling is just asking yourself the same question again". That kind of breaks the immersion

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I can never get electronics of any kind to work in dreams.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

So would the ⌚

[-] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

Looked at my watch a minute ago and it was 2:12. Just looked again and it's a completely different time, 2:13

Welp this day is a stupid dream I guess

[-] Hardeehar@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I did this but with the number of fingers on my hand. I counted 12 fingers and just said oh that's nice. Never realized it was a dream until long after I had woken up.

[-] tweeks@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

I also think your brain can make you think you read the same time or text etc in a dream. It might be a higher chance to go lucid though.

[-] Fleshtrap@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I pinch my nose and attempt to inhale through it, if successful, I'm dreaming.

[-] shiphoster@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Shoutout to my piece of shit brain that figured out that trick and decided to simulate accurate nose pinching physics.

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[-] mtchristo@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Hear is an easy hack, try screaming out of fear, you won't be able to scream or hear yourself screaming, and you will wake up on the spot.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

I don't wanna wake up though

[-] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Yup. In dreams I cannot achieve anything no matter the effort. And that failure loops.

The fact that I can post this means I'm not dreaming.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Bro that's when you're awake

[-] Ddhuud@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 year ago

I don't wear a clock... I'm living the dream!

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[-] WaffleFriends@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Funnily, the couple of times I do remember my dreams, my mind likes to use the changing time against me to turn them into nightmares

[-] CharlotteRain@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Bro... That's just life and it's called ageing.

[-] nottheengineer@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Every sign has a story and I'd love to hear that one.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

The guy who hung it printed it out and taped it up just before snapping the photo. Really cool story honestly.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Story: prop for internet memes

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Imagine thinking you were in Sheffield and then realizing it was just a dream. Oh the relief.

[-] zeet@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Nobody dreams of being in Sheffield.

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[-] Lianrepl@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

But how do I learn to start checking if I'm dreaming while I'm dreaming? I have an embarrasing and frustrating reoccurring theme in my dreams and I'd love to know how to stop it when it happens

[-] dm21@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By doing the above actually. Frequently. The idea is you do that kind of thing (a “reality check”) so often in your waking life that the checks begin to transfer over to your dreams

[-] rynzcycle@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I spent the first 12 years of my life or so, needing glasses without knowing, so I got good navigating rooms on instinct not sight. So now the number one way I realise I'm dreaming is when a room layout is off, even a little bit. Yay, lucid dreams.

But somehow, my phone/laptop/tech not functioning the way its supposed to never tips me off... I blame windows and Android. Boo stress nightmares.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Funnily enough I had a dream last night about missing a scheduled flight after trying to help someone set up a Linux computer.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 2 points 1 year ago

Ah, this reminded me of the old Linklater film Waking Life. Haven't thought about it for a long time. I used to be really into lucid dreaming when I was young and loved that movie.

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