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[-] blazera@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

my area doesnt even have sidewalks

[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Because to them, 'car' and 'vehicle' mean the same thing.

[-] elscallr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

For me it's because I want an electric car and don't really care about other modes of transit. I don't want to be in a dense city, and a car is far more practical outside of one.

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[-] Amilo1591@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago

Because a train isn't going to drive me from home to anywhere that's not a train station.

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You've got legs, and if you can afford a few hundred dollars you've got wheels. By all rights, anywhere you need to go ought to be walking distance from a train station. The reason it's not anymore, is that Americans demolished their cities to build parking, and now everything's too far away.

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I find these discussions seem to be dominated by young urbanites. People who don't need a car to get around as opposed to the huge number of people who live in areas that require a car to function. They are also physically able to bike many miles every day in any weather.

I took public transportation when I lived in a big city and was glad to have it but anytime I needed to go beyond a limited area in the city I needed a car. Now I live in an area with very limited public transportation and very very little is in walking distance and biking for my needs is not an alternative. Frequently using 100% public transportation routes would increase your travel time by a large amount, time you may not have or want to sacrifice. If you live in country like France it seems like the transit unions have a stranglehold on the nation as they can shut down everyone at will, if you have a car you at least have an alternative. There are also breakdown issues, maintenance shutdowns, etc. You also run into the last mile issue a lot. Where you need to go is frequently not a reasonable distance from the stop. I usually needed a car to get to the train stations for instance.

[-] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

huge number of people who live in areas that require a car to function

That is exactly the problem. Areas that require a car to function shouldn't exist. That's what those "young urbanites" are arguing for.

[-] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 1 points 1 year ago

And there are a lot of great point there about mixed zoning, but nuance is important. Should small towns with nearly nothing available locally, where you have to travel outside of town for most things just not exist? Even if they do have train connections (as they often do where I live, in Europe), you usually only have one train every 1-2 hours unless there's some specific significance to your town.

Improving things is a nice goal, but it often feels like here that people just want to eliminate anything that doesn't conform to their ideals of how the world should be like.

[-] variants@possumpat.io 0 points 1 year ago

yeah I think its aimed to help fix the high traffic areas, for me when I was able to take the train from near my home to near my work it was amazing, it went pretty much parallel to the highways so you could drive and maybe get there a little faster but riding the train made it so you had time to play game boy or read a book instead of staring at the bumper in front of you in traffic. more trains and public transportation for commuting and cars for leisure like going on a road trip to go camping

[-] duffman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

All we honestly need is a few community shared self driving cars in each neighborhood to fix the last mile issue with mass transit, but the fuck cars absolutists often would rather have trains built to every houses doorstep than admit cars could still hold a purpose.

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Well see the problem with self driving cars is that most of them put out PM2.5 pollution that gives asthma and lung cancer to little kids.

[-] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I would have to drive about 45 minutes to get to any form of public transport that isn't a school bus.

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[-] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Young people often have the tendency to be both ageist and ableist at times.

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[-] rotkehlchen@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

What is the advantage of autonomous trains over regular? It seems to me that when driving a train is your job, the autonomy just takes it away.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago

Bicycles are one of the most energy-efficient ways to travel, and electric ones even more so. But absolutely no one refers to them as "vehicles"...

[-] FReddit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Just an add here ... Pedestrian fatalities are up, largely due to huge vehicles in general. But EVs tend to be very heavy because of the batteries. So collisions tend to be very unpleasant.

[-] Psythik@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can confirm. Rode a 1000w electric bike to work every day and couldn't wait to get a car after all the near-misses I had. It's even more dangerous than a pedal bike cause no one expects a bicycle to be going almost 30 MPH. Almost got hit at least 3-4 time from people turning right cause they didn't expect me to be inside the intersection so soon.

They're a lot of fun for recreation but not as a daily driver, unless you have a suicide wish.

[-] holgersson@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's almost as of going 50kph with a bicycle isnt a good idea to begin with

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[-] Pokethat@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Because I don't want to stay in the city all the time?

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