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[–] joeyv120@ttrpg.network 394 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

The Israeli government is murdering children and committing war crimes, and they're upset about what The Onion has to say about it.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 176 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They are targeting the press, they really care about public opinion

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 143 points 10 months ago (6 children)

They're also full on slaughtering the press too.

So a rundown of what they're doing

  1. Killing 2 civilians for every 1 Hamas
  2. Killing children (50% of Gaza is under 18)
  3. Killing journalists

They're 100% correct Hamas needs to be wiped out because Hamas wants Jews to not exist, but goddamn the ends to not justify the means.

They've lost the fucking plot.

Mark my words anti-Semitism is going to continue it's crescendo and it's 100% because of the IDF and that asshat running Israel.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hamas charter excerpt.
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

Good to know they uphold this text by not publicly murdering and raping random civilians in their homes and proudly sharing the video.

[–] Baahb@feddit.nl 18 points 10 months ago

The IDF also says it's not genociding. Military groups are known for their trustworthiness

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does that mean Israel needs to be wiped out because they don't want Palestinians to exist?

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[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 10 months ago

Reminds me of that time Winnie the Poo got mad at some random child making fun of him on tiktok

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

East crimes? Typo or some phrase I've never heard of?

[–] joeyv120@ttrpg.network 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

God damnit I wanted to say it

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for Swiping your joke!

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Swiping jokes should be an east crime

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[–] gerowen@lemmy.world 126 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think a big part of it, here in the US, is besides all the post WW2 sentiment, a lot of folks here in the bible belt literally think they are God's chosen people, and so whatever they do is right by God, no matter how terrible. I recently showed up for jury duty and was speaking to a lady there about her son who had joined the Marine Corps. and thought he might get deployed, and she said, I shit you not, "At least he'll be fighting for God's people".

I've seen antisemitism. I've been in online communities that slowly devolved into rat caricatures and conspiracy theories about how Jews are out to destroy the world. So I know that modern antisemitism persists and is a thing to watch out for. But it's not antisemitic to admit that Zionist Israel is butchering innocent people because they want to claim all of Palestine for themselves, and that the west is too weak willed to do anything about it for fear of being called antisemitic, or going against "God's chosen people". That's not antisemitism, it's an objective, observable fact.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The even bigger issue is the Bible Belt is those moron’s reading of Revelation, which has them thinking Israel has to control Jerusalem for the rapture to happen.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That’s actually a requirement?

Do they have to hold up the Holy Grail and yell out “Jewmanji”, too?

[–] Vytle@lemmy.world 118 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Bro can i just say that i fucking hate that anti-semetic is even an argument used when someone demonstrates support for Hamas? it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.

[–] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 147 points 10 months ago

I think there is a very good argument of antisemitism if you support Hamas. There is no argument for antisemitism if you support Palestinians.

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Who the fuck supports Hamas? It's an actual terrorist organization that's oppressing people in Palestine

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

You would be surprised. Some people are fucking insane.

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[–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Colloquially yeah it makes a lot of sense to say Hamas is antisemitic, the word means hatred for Jews regardless of the etymology of 'semite'. Take it up with marriam-webster, not the people correctly using the modern definition of the word

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 25 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Hamas Charter, excerpt.
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

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[–] misophist@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.

Oof, either you're just grossly misinformed and performing a cringey "ackchually", or you're anti-semitic yourself and perpetuating anti-semitic rhetoric.

While yes, both are Semitic people, the term 'anti-semitic' was specifically coined by Nazi Germany to make their genocide seem like it had a basis in science. They specifically used it to refer to Jews. Nobody uses "anti-semitic" to mean all semites except hate groups and holocaust deniers who are trying to say "see, it doesn't even mean Jews specifically! Jews are just playing the victim!"

I will assume you're simply ignorant or misinformed, but feel free to correct me if this was actually an intentional dog-whistle.

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[–] PanArab@lemmy.world 86 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Golda Meir once said "After the Holocaust, Jews are free to do whatever they want".

Since then, Palestinians have been paying for the crimes of Nazi Germany.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 53 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Best take on this. A lot of Jewish people said “we must never let this happen again,” but some motherfuckers took notes.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 37 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Everyone post-WW2: "Never again"

  • Some people: "Never again should that be inflicted on anyone"
  • Other people: "Never again should that be inflicted on the Jewish"
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[–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 10 months ago

"We must learn from the past" vs "We must learn from the past"

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[–] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The scary part is they very much may just do that. NSO Group is based outta Israel, it's honestly terrifying. The man has much larger balls than some may realize.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What're they gonna do? Fail to gather basic intelligence on him before he invades their country? Oooh he's so scared

[–] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Their mercenary software is no joke. They will own your phone without you noticing, and once they own your phone, they own you. This is like silencing journalists if you're a nation state 101

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[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Just do what? It sounds like you're saying they'd hurt the journalist but the only context available makes it seem like you could be talking about the onion headline.

Edit: Did a little reading, fuck they're scary.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

IDK about this group in particular but at the moment Israel holds the record for most journalists murdered in wartime.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's 2 reasons for that:

  • They're attacking one of the most densely populated areas in the world

  • They're committing a genocide - when they want to wipe out the entire population, journalists are going to get killed in their indiscriminate attacks.

They're far-right too, so they're a half-step from flat out executing dissenting journalists (and how are journalists in Palestine likely to be aligned?).

[–] ADonkeyBrainedFog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Isreal has a database of all the people living in Gaza as well as their places of residency. Most (if not all) of the prominent Palestinian journalists have been killed in their homes, along with their families, in strikes using smart munitions during the first few days of the "war". It's giving Isreal too much credit to say they weren't specifically targeted.

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

NSO is apparently quite formidable in terms of hacking as well, to the point where apple actively sued them: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/11/apple-sues-nso-group-to-curb-the-abuse-of-state-sponsored-spyware/

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 10 months ago

DARVO

The battle cry of abusive assholes, worldwide!

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

if anything, it was probably a death threat.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Astoundingly based

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

wasn't that the account that was posting all sorts of transphobia right before oct 7th and they switched?

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[–] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

Israeli neozionist troll factory attempts have never really shied away from the public, with the most notable example being Act.IL, but that doesn't make them harmless. Giving your identity away like this is the same as giving away your identity to Scientologists, expect a serious degree of gaslighting and bullshit to be headed the way of your personal and professional life.

And I do mean serious, because with extremists and radicals getting the reigns of government thanks to Netanyahu, foreign intervention having been normalized to such an excessive degree, and countries letting them get away with it so freely, expect the requirements to get labeled as part of a "problem group" to become significantly easier to achieve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad#Europe

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