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[-] seathru@lemm.ee 79 points 10 months ago

Works for hot peppers. The worse you treat them while growing; the hotter, angrier and tastier they get.

[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Certain vegetables like leeks get buried as they sprout to make the "shoot" part as long as possible.

Rhubarb is grown in near complete darkness, and it screams as it grows towards a light it'll never reach

[-] seathru@lemm.ee 38 points 10 months ago

Rhubarb is grown in near complete darkness, and it screams as it grows towards a light it’ll never reach

Rhubarb cellars are metal. I forgot all about that.

[-] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There's some really great metal band names in here (IMHO).

  • Metalcore: Scream At A Light You'll Never Reach

  • Stoner: Rhubong and the Devil's Lettuce

  • Doom: Near Complete Darkness

  • Black: Rhübarb Screams

  • Death: Cellar Crop

  • Goregrind: Fed Shit and Kept in the Dark

  • Country/Folk Metal (aka Hank III): Rhubarb Wire Fences

[-] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

I have a rhubarb plant in my garden, and deep down I know that when I have long perished and my earthly remains have rejoined with the earth's soil, that rhubarb plant will still be there, stubbornly making more rhubarb than anyone can eat.

[-] snaprails@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago
[-] probablynaked@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Honestly rhubarb fights back against the oppressors who dare eat the wrong part of the plant

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Future generations will not look kindly upon this comment.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

After the angry pepper revolution puts them all in chains?

[-] Buck@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

That's how it worked for my kids, too.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 6 points 10 months ago

They're all such tormented, sexy artists at this point. Damn them.

[-] sirdorius@programming.dev 35 points 10 months ago

If the soy beans aren't cannibalizing themselves out of desperation it's not authentic enough

[-] sgbrain7@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago

So wait, are they treating the workers horribly, or..... Oh, it's an Onion article.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 18 points 10 months ago

If it helps, in Argentina they are deforesting large swathes of land and pushing previous owners out at gunpoint just to plant more soy. That's not an Onion article.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago

It's worth noting 77% of the world's soy goes to animal feed. Only 5% of soy goes to soy bean products like tofu, soy milk, etc.

https://ourworldindata.org/soy

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

Then, 90% of that feed gets used by the animals to walk around, fart, and generally stay alive until they get slaughtered. Essentially, 70% of the soy crops gets wasted on breeding animals to suffer.

[-] Black616Angel@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

Yes, but what is the soy used for (mostly)?

take a wild guessfeeding animals

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[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 24 points 10 months ago

This is going to trigger so many broflakes who have made eating meat their whole personality.

And before anybody starts screeching, I'm not even a vegan. I do mostly make vegan food at home, but you can pry my cheese out of my cold, dead hands, and I also occasionally eat fish or meat.

[-] 768@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago

This going to trigger so many >!cheeseflakes!< who have made eating cheese their whole personality.

And before any body starts screeching, I'm not even a vegan. I do mostly make vegan home at food, but you can pry my cold, dead hands out of my cheese, and I also occasionally eat fish or meat.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago
[-] 768@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago
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[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

The people I know that are hard-core meat eaters are hunters who vastly prefer meat they've killed themselves (in a heavily regulated system that prioritizes sustaining the environment). I live in Alaska, though.

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I don't think that's the major demographic of aggressive meat eaters on the internet honestly.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Are there really people who make eating meat their “whole personality”? lol

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

X Headline is going to trigger Y group

[-] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I found it funny, because it makes out that treating a plant badly makes it taste meaty in the same way that badly treated cattle are less nutritious and less good tasting than those which are free range on landscape like that they evolved on

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Meat is only ruined if the animal is stressed during slaughter.

Prior to that, for large animals like cows, only the last three months of feeding matters for the quality of the meat. Far less time for smaller animals.

Treating animals well has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the meat, except in the few moments immediately before slaughter. We should treat animals well on a matter of principle, and that's basically the only argument there is to it.

To be clear, I agree with that principle.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

Finally an onion article that isn't likely to become reality

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Scientists learned that plants can feel pain just like animals do, with that in mind, they hooked the plants up to Christmas music on loop.

[-] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Not Mariah Carey!!?!?

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[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I prefer Wagyu Soya

[-] cerulean_blue@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

It's from 2016. It became a reality.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago
[-] M137@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

It's funny because this would actually sell. And it's funny because it hurts too much to feel how disturbing it is.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The flavor comes from the suffering

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 points 10 months ago

Now I'm curious if plants have enough complexity to their internal experience for it to be possible to be cruel to them or not. One is used to thinking of them as basically inanimate apart from that they grow, but some of them can sort of communicate with other plants in certain ways can't they?

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

There is not really strong evidence of plant sentience. Here's one paper looking at it:

A. Plants do not show proactive behavior.

B. Classical learning does not indicate consciousness, so reports of such learning in plants are irrelevant.

C. The considerable differences between the electrical signals in plants and the animal nervous system speak against a functional equivalence. Unlike in animals, the action potentials of plants have many physiological roles that involve Ca2+ signaling and osmotic control; and plants’ variable potentials have properties that preclude any conscious perception of wounding as pain.

D. In plants, no evidence exists of reciprocal (recurrent) electrical signaling for integrating information, which is a prerequisite for consciousness.

E. Most proponents of plant consciousness also say that all cells are conscious, a speculative theory plagued with counterevidence.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8052213/

Though something interesting and perhaps counter intuitive to note is that even if we realized plants were sentient, a plant-based diet actually involved killing fewer plants due to the lessened need to grow feed (of which most of the energy is lost)

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[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well, the first step to this question is the ever infuriating "define cruelty". It's easy enough with complex vertebrates who have evolved to socially signal pain, which is almost everything we eat. It's even easy to extend it to complex vertebrates which hide pain. But it's hard enough to rigorously say whether something like an invertebrate insect or crustacean even feels pain at all. They certainly have pain responses, but is the qualia of that response in theory internal space recognizable?

It's not an easy question to approach, but it is an important one broadly.

[-] sirdorius@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Let's say that plants do have some kind of sentience, which is probably very limited due to the evidence we do have. Animals still have more advanced sentience that is closer to our own so it would still be the lesser evil to eat plants. Like why would you eat other people or chimps when there are other options available?

It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to be able to say that plants suffer the same way as animals. I know you're not saying this, but you do hear stuff like this based on this premise.

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

We need not have grandstanders in the comments, I eat meat products almost every day. This made me chuckle, because it's actually funny.

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You should watch Dominion and double check if suffering in another is funny.

[-] Dangy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

While it may seem dated now (2005), I prefer Earthlings. No need to watch both, they cover roughly the same topics.

vegan btw

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