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[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They don't actually produce the bottles. They buy them from another manufacturer and just fill them with water.

You're mostly paying for the cost of the bottle plus artificial markups for your water. A Brita filter for tap water is much more cost effective for the consumer assuming their tap water is safe.

[-] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 15 points 8 months ago

A Brita filter for tap water is much more cost effective for the consumer assuming their tap water is safe.

Here (the Netherlands) tap water is much, much cleaner than bottled water. It’s subject to much stricter regulations than bottled water. If the stuff in bottled water would come out of your tap then the water company would be in big trouble.

[-] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The two major companies blue triton and niagra do have their bottles made in house. They use plastic resin in a preform machine that then goes to a blowmolding machine to form the bottles then its filled right after. Blue triton is the investment group that bought out nestle waters north America back in 2021

[-] Jon_Servo@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Water landlords smh. Or maybe waterlords?

[-] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Waterlords sounds too cool of a title, I think water suckers is better.

[-] driving_crooner 3 points 8 months ago

Is more the distribution costs.

[-] zik@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

And honestly any plastic bottled drink is just as bad. They just add some sugar and flavouring so it's even worse for you.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 29 points 8 months ago
[-] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I really hate these headlines. "100 times more!!! Will somebody think of the children!!!"

A better headline would express if this is actually concerning or not for our health. 100 times more than an insignificant quantity can still be an insignificant quantity.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Let's put it this way: it's infinitely more plastic than would be in your body under natural circumstances.

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Or, society could actually provide a lot of public fountains, but that might mean taxing the richest to the point where they only have enough money for a hundred lifetimes, instead of a thousand lifetimes.

[-] zik@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I mean bottled water even tastes like plastic so it should be no surprise to anyone.

[-] Hazmatastic@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago

I hate water companies as much as the next guy, but processing water can be really expensive and would be disastrous for a company to do poorly. This take is like saying "you know fence companies don't produce iron, right?" No, but it takes money to make the iron into a fence, just like it takes money to make water potable.

That said, water companies can still go eat a dick. Idk how ethical smaller companies like liquid death are, but I just refill a reusable bottle when at all possible. I will go thirsty out of spite if the only water available is Nestlé. There is a lot more to complain about than saying they "don't produce anything."

[-] schnokobaer@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago

What company that sells bottled water processes it themselves? The two types I know are syphoning it from a spring and those (at least where I'm from) are not allowed to process it and still call it "from spring XYZ"... and those who just fill up tap water somewhere where it can pass as mineral water and then transport it over the globe.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 18 points 8 months ago

Disposable plastic should be illegal. It's cheap, but only because of all the externalized costs.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

In Finland 93% of plastic, glass and aluminium drink containers are returned back to the store and recycled into new ones.

[-] urshanabi@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 8 months ago

thankfully if plastic is gone we wouldn't be left with a majority of the hassle to deal with in the public sector, i.e. what another commenter called "externalized costs"

[-] FlordaMan@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Or they should be made so expensive that they only make sense when there really is no alternative.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

“You know what would make water better? A small container with a shitload of microplastics!“

Filtration gang for life

[-] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 12 points 8 months ago

They don't technically produce the water, but they are probably the ones filtering it and stuff

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

It's worse than that. They consume the bottles, and then resell the bottles filled with something that is supposedly a human right, for profit.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Pretty sure they don’t claim that they “produce water”.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When they first started showing up at gas stations I thought it was so absurd. That day I learned if it exists in a retail store someone will buy it.

[-] brian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

This is without me looking it up because I don't really care enough to. But more than likely, the bottled water companies do not make their own bottles. They probably buy from manufacturers of bottles, then do the hard part of filling them up.

[-] Knightfox@lemmy.one 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Majority of the bottlers who are of notable size buy "blanks" which are heated, blown, and formed by equipment as part of the bottling process. Blanks are essentially the lip and cap portion of the bottle, but instead of a bottle below that it's a vial of plastic about 2 inches long and an inch wide. It's cheaper to ship blanks and blow them at the destination than it is to ship fully formed bottles. The benefit of this method is that the bottler can have their own bottle design, but buy blanks from any standard producer.

From blanks to formed bottles filled with water is literally fractions of a second the process happens so fast. It takes longer for the bottle to get a label and end up in packaging than it does to form and fill.

EDIT: Also, very few bottlers produce their own water. They use tap water from a large municipality and then additionally treat it to match brand specs (taste and flavor). If you drink Dasani or Aquafina you're essentially drinking tap water.

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[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Funny how things change. 30 years ago drinking bottled water was considered snobby

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I remember when it first started gaining popularity, and there were plenty of naysayers that couldn't believe people would pay for water. What I really can't believe is that people pay up to $10 for a bottle of water if the bottle is fancy enough.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

It's still largely considered insane in most parts of the world.

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[-] PhilipJFryJr@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago
[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Who are those horrible orange creatures over there?

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

Tell them I hate them!

[-] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

The Donald's bastard children my dear

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago
[-] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean, it's literally in the name

[-] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I'm not filling up my Stanley in a gas station bathroom.

[-] thisfro@slrpnk.net 7 points 8 months ago

Feels bad man

I've done this multiple times where I live and the water was as great as anywhere else

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