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Maybe he has a personal interest in this?
edit:
The amendment would also reduce the designation of incest by contact to a Class D felony for some cases "unless it is committed with a person who is less than twelve years of age," in which case it is Class C.
uhhhhhhhhhhh…. that age cutoff seems low
Not if the child he has his eye set on is just above it. :-(
Hey Nick Wilson, tell us you fuck your cousin without telling us you fuck your cousin.
The amendment would also reduce the designation of incest by contact to a Class D felony for some cases “unless it is committed with a person who is less than twelve years of age,” in which case it is Class C.
his 13 year-old cousin, it seems
Less than 12 ... so basically she's 12.
No, she will be 12 just before the law takes effect.
Glad they are tackling the important issues in Kentucky. I'm sure every Kentuckyan has their ability to fuck their first cousin high on the list of problems they wish their government would address.
“At 17 you can marry your first cousin but you can’t have hormones that your doctor is happy to prescribe”-Kentucky
Actually I’m surprised that’s the youngest I could make that joke. They recently raised the minimum marriage age to 17 with parental consent which like took you long enough but still good job
HB 269 - "The purpose of the bill is to add "sexual contact" to the incest statute. Currently, incest only applies in cases of intercourse. So sexual touching/ groping by .. anyone with a familial relationship is not included in incest. My bill makes that kind of sexual contact a Class D Felony, unless the victim is under the age of 12, then it increases the penalty to a Class C Felony."
Basically they accidentally left out cousins (and the bill has already been withdrawn) from what sounds like an otherwise good bill and the news media runs wild. Keep this handy when you hear about this for the next ( if <= heat death of the Universe )
imho incest should only be outlawed because of the risk of gene defects during pregnancy. so while nasty I dont think a hanky panky from your first cousin should be outlawed
and no, I dont have a hot cousin
Beyond the potential biological issues, the biggest problem tends to be coercion and consent. The majority of incestuous encounters are abusive and involve a power dynamic that makes informed consent impossible.
Now, if every party is an adult and capable of informed consent, it is possible to test for likelihood of genetic defects based upon the parents' genes. So, I can't think of a non-subjective objection if, for example, they met for the first time as adults and didn't know of such relation. Still pretty weird to me but I don't think it's anyone's place to interfere with healthy, loving relationships.
Christ on a bike I thought this was The Onion.
It should be, it should be for fucks sake, but this apparently is the timeline where it is not:-(.
So I do not endorse this guy or any GOP member in any way. But if you read the article he says dropping the first cousin from the list was an error of omission and not intentional, and he is re-filing the bill to include it. The intent of the bill was to expand the classification of incest beyond just intercourse to include any type of sexual contact. Which seems like its actually progressive, just not clickbait worthy.
I wouldn't call that "progressive" but it's not exactly libertarian freedom either. The actual law seems weirder than trying to deregulate cousin incest.
Not that I really feel strongly about it but I don't see the state interest in specifically banning cousin blowjobs. Seems like one of those things that should be in the dustbin of overtightened sexual restrictions like sodomy laws.
So… the same party that wants to stop same sex couples from having sex is upset that the government is telling them whom they can’t have sex with? Golly.
"look, all I'm saying is, two men having consensual sex is wrong. Why can't they be normal and have sex with their 12 year old cousin, like me?"
Jokes aside.
Felony by definition means it's punishable by at least one year in prison.
So specifically, why are we incarcerating consenting adults for having sex?
From a moral point, don't do that. From a legal point, stay out of the bedroom.
I'll also add context of this is a very Western belief. Natives of America prevented inbreeding by not marrying within the clan. Your first cousins could be in a different clan and therefore open for marriage.
You say consenting adults, the bill says one of them can be as young as 13 years...
Yes, and I'll counter that argument by suggesting we ban having sex with children regardless of if the molester is related.
Because of course that's the top priority for Kentucky Republicans right now 🙄
I rock climb in Kentucky sometimes. It looks like a war zone. Maybe they should fix the astounding levels of poverty, instead of ensuring that it’s legal to bang your family.
How is this important enough to occupy the time of our politicians?
I mean…look at that guy. It probably occupies all of his time. They intentionally picked that photo for this exact reason, I’m sure.
It's jangling keys. So long as there are enough headlines about cousins banging, we won't have enough time left over to get upset about corruption, fascism, etc.
"I hate how everyone always stereotypes and makes fun of us southern states so much, it's not fair."
Then they go do shit like this.
to be ""fair"" i'm pretty sure most (first world) countries actually don't restrict sex between first cousins. or same-sex incest for that matter. could be misremembering though
what is extremely sickening about it is the age the bill wants which makes it not at all comparable to most other countries (well except like France until recently maybe)
i mean it's still pretty incestuous so trying to separate it from other forms of incest as if it's so much different doesn't make much sense
edit: here's a map
lmao i like italy's stance. "yea bro u can fuck ur dad if the news doesn't find out"
Eh. I discovered that a married couple I know are first cousins, and have two very normal kids, so I looked into it.
From a genetics stand point, the risk of inbred related health risks are pretty negligible. I think it basically doubled the risk, on very small chances to begin with.
Yeah, it's still kind of weird and rude to talk about.
As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, the age portion of this law is the creepy part. It was my own bias that made the first cousins part weird. As others mentioned, it was pretty common for our tribal ancestors.
It's pretty common still in multiple countries and in some migrant subcultures living in other countries. The consequences over multiple generations are not pretty.
An article with examples: https://www.dw.com/en/pakistan-cousin-marriages-create-high-risk-of-genetic-disorders/a-60687452
Imo it's still a bad idea to allow it. Even between first cousins of a family without a history of inbreeding, doubling the chance of genetic disorders is not nothing. Scale it up to many people doing it and it becomes a heavy burden on healthcare systems. And in countries with socialized healthcare, it's not really fair that everyone has to contribute more to healthcare because some people want to defy genetics. Imo again.
Guys. I just can't!
Rainbow flags and healthcare for trans people: no way fuck that shit! It's bad for children
Sex with family: no no. It's ok. It's my cousin.
That's the look of a man the fucked his first cousin.
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
"Republican tries to change law so he can fuck his family, nobody bat an eye"
Republicans: "It's not pedophilia if we get rid of the laws making it illegal!"
The article conveniently leaves out that 19 states allow marriages between first cousins and additional states allow those marriages under certain conditions according to Wikipedia. It also is legal in most countries.
he must be from shelbyville
“This candidate knows how to speak to his base”
https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article284338699.html
Apparently the bill was supposed to expand the prosecution of incest not make more of it. Who knows with the KY state reps.
Since we’re talking about KY reps. Damon Thayer is a corrupt scumbag.
The jokes write themselves.
Of course they did.
Home Sweet Home, Alabama! ♥️
Seriously, it is incest. And Republicans are into that.
