For June 20 and 21, the most recent days for which Similarweb has estimates, the ads site got in the range of 7,500 to 9,000 visits, Carr explained, meaning that ad-buying traffic has continued to drop.

I'm glad Reddit is feeling something from this, however, at the same time. I kinda don't care. It's a shame it went the way that it did. But spez can't take back his terrible attitude and decision making on what happened. Most people were sympathetic and wanting Reddit to be profitable and rooting for Reddit. However, spez just decided to come out swinging from nowhere hitting his allies in the face.

I am glad that this happened because Lemmy is very interesting platform.

At the end of the day, Reddit is just a message board. The absolute hubris to think that one could seriously go public with a message board website... It's baffling.

Honestly, Reddit missed the ship to IPO. They should have done it a decade ago if at all.

Without mods, Reddit will become overrun with bots, rendering the precious data Reddit so desparately tries to monetize practically useless.

Agreed. I deleted my 15 year account. Mods should just leave.

Reddit can’t exist without the free labor.

Other side is I don’t know what the mods that stick it out get. I’m guessing there is some monetary benefit to the bigger community mods I don’t know about.

I literally made a reddit account a few days before the hullabaloo started, specifically to buy advertising on reddit.

1. The ad interface is terrible. Most of my experience is with Google Ads, but in general these platforms try to be super-nice to their advertisers and give them a good experience. Not reddit. The same overall shittiness the infests the rest of the site is also in their ad portal.
2. Most of the clicks were fairly poor quality (high bounce rate).
3. Whatever I tried to configure to limit geographic reach to US+Canada either was broken or was just ignored. I got plenty of clicks from all over world.

I stopped advertising on blackout day for moral reasons regardless, but it also seemed like it just overall wasn't worth it in general. And, my observation of the ads I see as a user has been that they aren't at all tuned to what I would be likely to want, or constructed so I'd be likely to click on them. Some platforms I have to consciously avoid clicking on ads or scroll past them deliberately when my natural tendency is to click on them. On reddit it's just weird nonsense that I want to scroll past anyway.

In short, my brief experience with reddit ads made me conclude that it's probably a waste of money anyway.

Imagine that once upon a time (5-15 years ago), I actually had addblocker disabled on reddit, because I considered it worth supporting. lol

WE made the content. The community. No doubt the majority of level-headed folk would have accepted ad requirements in 3rd party apps. Hosting isn't free, something needs to be monetized.

But that's not what it's about. It's about locking down content from the new wave of AI models and charging for it. Charging for content we created freely to be shared.

Sure is funny how reddit wasn't concerned with with mobs having to much power or enforcing any code till it affected the snowflake admin

However, Similarweb told Gizmodo traffic to the ads.reddit.com portal, where advertisers can buy ads and measure their impact, has dipped. Before the first blackout began, the ads site averaged about 14,900 visits per day. Beginning on June 13, though, the ads site averaged about 11,800 visits per day, a 20% decrease.

For June 20 and 21, the most recent days for which Similarweb has estimates, the ads site got in the range of 7,500 to 9,000 visits, Carr explained, meaning that ad-buying traffic has continued to drop.

This is the only metric that matters to Reddit, so it's nice to see!

I don't understand why the CEO thinks this is some 4D business move. This is not the first time most of us have transitioned like this regarding social outlets. There must be records and archives proving that it is unwise to treat a community as negatively as it has ...... because it's too easy for internet folk to just up and move to a new place of interest. Time is wrought with soo many examples:

For those of you who are ancient, there were the bad days of AOL and Yahoo, and then time moved on with ideas like social networks and board systems like 4chan. But how did they not know? Just look at what is in store for future Reddit by heading to the front page of Digg.

For one, I mean, look at this sad, sad, sad thing! Further, have you wandered to see Myspace...... not sure who that audience is, but hey, to each their own. Hell, I can assure you that most of us only keep FB to keep some contact with family and old friends. I suppose the root of what I am saying is

I came from days of dialup and gone through yahoo groups, Myspace, tons of geocity sites, ask jeevs, LiveJournal, and so on. Sites will only be an attraction tell something comes that offers more. With federation and decentralized systems coming up, the hold on people and corporations trying to use you as a commodity will only tarnish the shine that it once was. When companies hold a noose around your neck thinking there isn't another option, telling you to go ahaid and jump, thinking no one will and when something comes by that makes the jump just a step down and you can take off the noose, there is nothing that they can hold onto anymore. They cannot say you have nowhere else to go. With the choice around in a federated system, you cannot be held hostage by a single entity. When people have the freedom of choice, the people win.

Understand that Spez is so out of touch he even managed to piss off gigantic pacifist nerd-communities like r/startrek to leave and switch over to the open source side! These subs inevitably take dedicated users and quality memes with them. The users and mods create the value. Honour to you and your house Lemmy. Qapla'

The beatings aren't improving morale, you say? I guess we just need to increase the beatings then.

Well we’re here basically figuring it out. Time to show them they aren’t needed anymore.

It isn’t even about the API drive out anymore of why I’m not going back to Reddit. It’s the CEO though and though

Just wait for July 1st! Once millions of people find their apps not working anymore and their porn gone there's no way going back for Reddit.

lol spez literally killed the platform with draconian policies. this is going to be something that is mentioned in college courses for decades.

probably not how he wanted to leave his mark on history...

why did it have to be aaron swartz

why couldn't it have been huffman...

I feel like old af now that I’ve watched two huge sites implode due to mismanagement. I was a Digg refuge way back, and now here I am on lemmy…

The enshtification of reddit has reached a head.

"Oh yeah Plebbit? What are you gonna do next, hack my PC and force me to read nothing else than random reddit content for the rest of my life?"

They're trying hard to make it like this is some issue about moderators, but they're just the most vocal group complaining about reddit trying to lock down its entire service for monetization and harming all users (and especially vulnerable users) in the process. Always be mindful of people trying to shift the focus like that.