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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A poster in the southern Spanish city of Seville that depicts a young, handsome Jesus wearing only a loincloth has unleashed a storm on social media, with some calling it an affront to the figure of Christ and others posting lewd remarks and memes poking fun at the image.

The poster by internationally recognized Seville artist Salustiano García Cruz shows a fresh-faced Jesus without a crown of thorns, no suffering face and minuscule wounds on the hands and ribcage. It was commissioned and approved by the General Council of Brotherhoods, which organizes the renowned and immensely popular Holy Week processions ahead of Easter in Seville.

As soon as it was unveiled last week criticism of it went viral on social media and a debate erupted over how a resurrected Christ should be depicted. Many called it a disgrace, inappropriate, too pretty, modernist and out of line with Seville’s Easter tradition.

Spain is predominantly Catholic and church traditions such as marriage, baptisms and religious parades are immensely popular both among believers and nonbelievers. A campaign on Change.org to have the poster of Jesus withdrawn was signed by some 14,000 people from around the country.

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[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Hey if you are going to take the body of Christ in your mouth...

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Nothin’ at all! . . .

. . . Nothin’ at all! . .

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

You want a Jesus movie starring Jared Leto? Because this is how you get a Jesus movie starring Jared Leto.

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[-] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

Can't help but notice that no one's mad about him being white, but being hot is out of the question.

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

People really need to drop the whole "people in the middle east in the first century couldn't be white" thing.

2 Kings 5:27 is literally about a subpopulation who have ancestrally passed skin as white as snow.

Lamentations 4:7 is about how pre-captivity there were people with skin like milk and a ruddy appearance.

Dead Sea Scroll fragment 4Q534 is either describing Noah or the Messiah as having red hair.

One of the more fascinating finds in this tomb, one that has not received much attention, was the preservation of a sample of Jewish male hair. The hair was lice-free, and was trimmed or cut evenly, probably indicating that the family buried in this tomb practiced good hygiene and grooming. The length of the hair was medium to short, averaging 3-4 inches. The color was reddish.

The tradition is also really concerned with skin checks and describes what may be skin cancer as its leprosy. Something that occurs at a much higher rate in redheads.

There's even a scene where the eponymous founder of Edom ('red') who is born with hair all over his body and named Esau either because of that hair or the reddish porridge he ate, either gives away or has his birthright/blessing stolen from him by the guy later renamed 'Israel' in the Bible.

There's a lot more to this and the underlying history, but the notion that the middle east was a monolith of appearances and that no one with pale skin or lighter hair were present is preposterous and a modern falsification of historical realities.

Jesus was probably darker skinned and haired than typically depicted, but it is by no means a certainty as it is popularly presented as.

[-] Kellamity@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Because its really not about whether or not the historical Jesus was or could have been white - its about the fact that white cultures will almost exclusively portray Jesus as being their own race for reasons that have nothing to do with historical interpretation of demographics is the middle east in ~0ad

People calling out White Jesus arent doing so because of a 'notion that the middle east was a monolith of appearences', but instead because of a hypocrisy of many Christian groups - in particular in the evangelical American right - to almost literally whitewash Jesus to look more like themselves, while often dehumanizing the people that look like Jesus 'probably' looked like.

Its really not about a historical question of the average middle-eastern skin colour two millenia ago. I assure you that the vast majority of 'White Jesus' portrayers have not engaged with that question and do not care about the answer. So to look to that as a refutation of the criticism is really missing the point.

[-] butterflyattack@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah Herodotus talks about a lot of peoples with different physical characteristics too. Although TBF like the old testament, it's written centuries before Jesus, I'm not sure the same applies to both time periods.

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[-] Jubei_K_08@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Reminded me of this passage:

"You've never seen a crucifix with a Jesus who wasn't almost naked. You've never seen a fat Jesus. Or a Jesus with body hair. Every crucifix you've ever seen, the Jesus could be shirtless and modeling designer jeans or men's cologne...

Nobody wants to worship you if you have the same problems, the same bad breath and messy hair and hangnails, as a regular person. You have to be everything regular people aren’t. Where they fail, you have to go all the way. Be what people are too afraid to be. Become whom they admire. People shopping for a messiah want quality. Nobody is going to follow a loser. When it comes to choosing a savior, they won't settle for just a human being."

-Survivor by Palahniuk

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[-] liquidparasyte@pawb.social 15 points 9 months ago

SMH the Son of Man can't be a hunk anymore? RIP so many classical European artists

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Yeah he was actually fat, bald, white guy from New Jersey

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Ehhhey hey there fry man. Peace be wit chas or, uh, sumthin

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[-] brothershamus@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But Jesus’ light skin and blues eyes suggest that he is not Middle Eastern but European-born. And the faux-Hebrew script embroidered on Mary’s cuffs and hemline belie a complicated relationship to the Judaism of the Holy Family.

In Mantegna’s Italy, anti-Semitic myths were already prevalent among the majority Christian population, with Jewish people often segregated to their own quarters of major cities.

Oh yeah

[-] Graphy@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

You’ve gotta remember that Jesus is half god and as we know god is white.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

They just wanted something that people would look at and think:

Oh. My. GOD.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Handsome, fresh faced, and not especially Semitic.

[-] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

The ONE thing the bible says about his appearance is that he was average looking

https://christianityfaq.com/jesus-christs-appearance/

[-] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 19 points 9 months ago
[-] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

I was like huh does the Bible really say that? It doesn't use those words, but yeah it says he was born as a baby and then grew physically larger as he grew up

https://biblehub.com/luke/2-52.htm

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[-] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

This was average back then! We're actually getting fuglier as a species

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Um that was written by someone who died hundreds of years before Jesus was born.

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[-] ExLisper@linux.community 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The artist says he used his son as a model: https://elcorreoweb.es/maspasion/un-cristo-joven-y-resucitado-anuncia-la-semana-santa-de-sevilla-de-2024-BF9117056

It may be hard to understand but the Holy Week in southern Spain is not really about religion (as in faith). It's kind of like football: people are fucking crazy about it, it has it's lore and it's huuuge but honestly, you're not going to see a single priest during the whole event and no one goes to church or prays. It's like a religion themed festival. Sexy Jesus fits perfectly. People can relax about it.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Throw the nuns and monks a bone. If they can't spontaneously orgasm looking at Jesus' groin and abs, after years of abstentinence, early morning mass becomes a bit of slog. I mean orgasm metaphorically of course, because they're so devout.

I'll quote Saint Teresa of Jesus:

In his hands, I saw a great golden spear, and at the iron tip there appeared to be a point of fire. This he plunged into my heart several times so that it penetrated to my entrails. When he pulled it out I felt that he took them with it, and left me utterly consumed by the great love of God. The pain was so severe that it made me utter several moans. The sweetness caused by this intense pain is so extreme that one cannot possibly wish it to cease, nor is one’s soul content with anything but God. This is not a physical but a spiritual pain, though the body has some share in it—even a considerable share.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fictional character is reimagined and fanboys are annoyed, water is wet.

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[-] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

eh, Buddy Christ did it better

[-] Spesknight@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Come on, he died at 33 and was propably at least charismatic... Now find a palestinian that looks as this and you are good (that's the tricky part, but not impossible).

[-] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah in Sevilla Easter is THE holiday so I'm sure this is gonna play out fascinatingly well...

[-] brothershamus@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

"Easter poster depicting a handsome, fresh-faced White Jesus prompts criticism in Spain"

ftfy

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