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[–] immortal_crab@lemmy.blahaj.zone 178 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Remember kids, if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing!

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 76 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Remember kids, if buying is owning, piracy still isn't stealing. You can make infinite copies of digital media.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's still very much copyright infringement. I don't give a shit about CI, but it still is that.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago

That's still not stealing though.

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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 86 points 9 months ago (11 children)

i really hate how they call it a 'library', very disingenuous if it's all on their servers and predicated on their fucking license agreements

what if real libraries had to throw away books because harpercollins got pissy. would anyone stand for it? (probably yes)

[–] Jesusaurus@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You mean like southern states banning books because they are "offensive"?

[–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Ironically, the christian Bible is one of the most offensive books there is

[–] bort@feddit.de 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

because of all the socialist propaganda in it?

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

and the massive jizzing donkey dicks

[–] doingless@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They're actually mens dicks the size of donkeys. Be accurate my dude.

[–] MetaSynapse@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The size of donkeys dicks, or the size of whole donkeys?

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And the abortions, and the child killing

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 8 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Abortion instructions*. The Bible tells you how to force your wife to have an abortion if she cheats on you.

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[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 8 points 9 months ago

Oh, we don't believe God's word in those parts.

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I'm more worried about their definition of buy ;)

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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 69 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The feel when no pirate gf

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate wife for me!

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[–] unreachable@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

"what a nice digital you have there, shame if someone take it from you."

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 62 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Want me to buy your media legally? Oh please, this is tremendously easy to do for a corporation!

  • Downloadable files (you have files, right? Otherwise how are you streaming out the stuff)
  • ...with open codecs (you are using an open codec right? Otherwise you have to encode your stuff like 10 times for 10 different devices each with its own idiosyncrasy)
  • ...without DRM (you have clean copies right? it'd not be smart to base a business model on files you can't open, see the above)
  • ...at an aggregate price that's lower than paying for TV cable (you can cash in only a bit, right? It's digital media and your competition is literally over-the-air TV with extra steps, it's not like you have the mother of pearl of cancer cures here)
[–] test113@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In other words, media as a "service" makes more money than media as a one-point sale. Why should they sell you a one-point solution when the service model makes more money for the shareholders? I love the shareholder economy; it makes all our lives better and makes us focus on what really matters at the end of the day, which is, of course, profits for people who already have too much money. :) very cool

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They exist to fuck over artists and the viewers as much as they can get away with.

I just decided I’m perfectly comfortable fucking the media companies over first.

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

If you want to stay truly legit, buy used physical releases. They cost less money and you could support your local record store. Movies and music on a home NAS + Plex Server are god tier.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 56 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They know. They simply do not care.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 31 points 9 months ago

Not only that, but they think people are dumb enough to keep paying (and sometimes they're not wrong).

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[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 56 points 9 months ago (5 children)

There is an easy fix here:

Require mergers to refund customers impacted as part of the merger.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Refund the sale price (that's less than its value to me), or the value I placed on it (that's difficult to estimate)?

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[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wish guides about cracking DRM for legally purchased content were more popular

[–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The reason they aren't is because methods for cracking DRM like Widevine are kept extremely secret so that the exploits don't get patched. It does mean that a lot of content is locked to whatever the scene decides is worth their time to crack and distribute, but if anyone made the methods they use public, they would stop working very quickly.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 20 points 9 months ago

This happened with a version of Denuvo. Someone leaked an unobfuscated cracked version of a game (I think it was Need for Speed), giving Denuvo the opportunity to study how their protection got cracked.

[–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What does Widevine actually do? You may not be able to download directly but you can just use OBS

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 10 points 9 months ago

You'll get worse quality. Widevine doesn't let you play 4K content on unapproved systems. It's also way less convenient. Obviously, pirates are not affected because they can just download Star.Wars.XII.Galactic.Boogaloo.WEBRIP.4K-DarkNaruto69.mkv, it's only an issue if you try to watch content legally for some reason.

[–] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Feels like “buy” should be in quotes

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There absolutely needs to be a law that forces companies to make this abundantly clear and make the usage of "buy" illegal in those cases. It should be "rent" or "purchase temporary license."

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yuuup. It's basic consumer protection. Imagine if a car dealership were allowed to do what we let media companies get away with. You go to the dealership, sign a contract that you didn't fully read, and then ten years later Toyota shows up to steal your car because clause 78 of section G(4) says that the manufacturer reserves the right to repossess anything they made at any time. They wouldn't be able to finish stealing that car before a thousand hungry lawyers ate them alive. Why do we let media companies do that?

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 10 points 9 months ago

They wouldn’t be able to finish stealing that car before a thousand hungry lawyers ate them alive. Why do we let media companies do that?

They would probably actually have a decent shot at getting away with it, at least at first.

And to answer your question, it's because the anger that companies generate by doing this shit ends up turning into piracy. Why would you try to punish a corp for doing this (likely wasting your time) when a cheap VPN and basic tech literacy gets you what you want?

The effort ratios are way out of wack when it comes to digital products. It's easy to get around digital bullshitery, not so much in the real world where we are all car dependant.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 22 points 9 months ago

There should almost be a "buy a license to..." distinction like how some games are free versus free to play.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 24 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I will genuinely never pay for a streaming service again lmao

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[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This kind of shitfuckery has been going on for as long as DRM has been around and yet people still fall for the scam.

[–] Pilgrim@beehaw.org 13 points 9 months ago

Making their products harder to use, while making them more expensive

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

As opposed to buying it illegally, or stealing it legally?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Buying it illegally is what some people do. I wish I could find the article I read, but pirate cable is definitely a thing in some places

Stealing legally is what the cops do when they commit ~~robbery~~ civil asset forfeiture

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[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago

You can pay for illegal content and you can take something without permission, legally.

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