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though i think there's a solid argument to be made for most of these being conservative, even if not in ways this guy would necessarily recognize as such. name a series on this and i could find a legitimate, not a bit reason it's reactionary. that goes triple for one piece

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, Bocchi is fascist :(

Also isn't Jin-Roh about how fascism dehumanizes and destroys its own? Chud media literacy is a joke, obviously, so I assume they just see the aesthetics and think soypoint-1 "WHOA COOL NAZIS"

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

yeah jin-roh is about how fascism dehumanizes and destroys itself, but it does very much aestheticize the whole thing to a slightly worrying extent

i don't really have an answer for bocchi beyond high school anime broadly is about making the most of the last time of freedom you have before going into the meat grinder that is the japanese workforce/college, but that's a symptom and not actually the anime itself being conservative

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How can this be conservative-core when Kill la Kill - literally main theme is getting more powerful the more confident you get about being naked?

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's conservative for libertarian-alert reasons

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget that it's also got bloody bloody blood blood because violence is cool

Side note I love how that emoji is called "libertarian alert" lmao

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Side note I love how that emoji is called "libertarian alert" lmao

I love libertarian-approaching for similar reasons lol

[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Kill la Kill's entire concept started because someone at Trigger thought it'd be funny to make a pun out of fashion and fascism.

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

ryuko being a nudist lesbian is obviously not particularly conservative, but it's a DEEPLY individualist fantasy

[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I take solace in the fact that no fascist will ever put the shows I, the One True Anime Communist, like, in a list like this.

Because no fascist will ever sit through Mushishi or The Tatami Galaxy without getting bored.

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

feel fairly confident utena isn't going to be on these lists anytime soon, that'll get any conservative ranting about removed in a heartbeat

now im imagining the person who watches utena and is cheering for akio trying to force fem utena and being confused when that isn't how the show ends. very making up a guy to get mad at

[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should make our own Commie Core list lol

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it'd probably just be this but with like 4 changes made

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's see, how many of these do I like... Let's say 11 by the most conservative definition... Out of 40 on this chart. So I am apparently at least one-quarter reactionary.

Horseshoe theory time

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I'm that +/- a few (probably like nearly anyone on this comm, it's literally just a list of popular anime - there's not even any deep cuts here lol).

snipes-hesitation to us lol.

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

oh trust me, me too, including some of the ones i'd argue are kinda legit conservative. anyone who's into anime (especially anime from before the big streaming boom) is going to be

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[–] solitaire@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah I mean, I think I understand the ones I'm familiar with as "conservative core" picks. Most of it is shallow and aesthetic but that's sort of what these lists are about. Though for more than one of these I think the shallow, aesthetic relation to conservatism is underage girls. Come to your own conclusions on that one.

It's also worth keeping in mind that one of the undercurrents of conservatism is a reactionary disdain for capitalism. While few would actually articulate that honestly these days, it used to be stated outright. So while some might also be repulsed by the destruction inherent in industrialization found in Mononoke, the conservative would do so yearning for a regression to feudal relations.

There are some notable absences though. I would have thought Attack on Titan would be there, it used to be very popular with the right. Did that somehow change?

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

i think this person is a very 2007 era anime fan who probably wasn't watching much anime when aot got big. there's a big gap of about a decade where they only watch a couple shows before getting back into anime. very much a type of guy

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Azumanga Daioh, the anime where the frigging air force makes a giant rainbow pride flag in the sky above wedding bells and an ocean of flowers when a girl gets paired up with her crush who is also a girl

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Kaorin is literally me

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

normalizes libertarian-alert with that one teacher i guess? i got nothing tbh

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kimura is typically the butt of the joke and is hated by basically everybody, so I wouldn't say it's normalized per se, especially not when there are many, many, many other anime that do normalize libertarian-alert stuff

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

yeah i just mentioned it because it was the only thing i could think of, not because it's actually worth condemning the show over

the real reason it's on this list is of course because it is very funny and that means conservatives also like it, and this one felt the need to justify it by saying it was a conservative show

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

iirc it has some jokes about foreigners? i don't really remember and definitely think it's one of the most 'on the list because it's popular with a certain age demographic of weeb' things on the list

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[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

essential communist-core:

  • medabots
  • digimon episodes with patamon in them
[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The two where I can squint and see his point are Hellsing and Spy Family.

  • Hellsing's obvious because of all the Christian imagery

  • Spy Family, is about well...starting a family. But I never thought conservatives would like it because Loid isn't a fat abusive alcoholic like an "alpha male".

[–] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Spy x Family is steeped in Cold war imagery with the "bad side" pretty much being a stand in for the GDR

Tanya the Evil features "2nd Reich" (it's actually a blend of 2nd and 3rd) as the protagonists

Legend of the Galactic Heroes has Space Prussia & enlightened despotism winning

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[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Spy Family, is about well...starting a family. But I never thought conservatives would like it because Loid isn't a fat abusive alcoholic like an "alpha male".

It's also about found family and adoption. There's definitely a portion of right-wingers that adopt kids, but the fascist anime fan types seem too obsessed with cum to consider "raising someone else's child."

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[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

im curious what the author thinks bleach being conservative, given its about a rebellious teenager who breaks all the traditional values of a longstanding organization by breaking a lot of taboo things throught the series (banned substitute shinigamis, yet still became one, caused an uprising just to save Rukia, did not have full shinigami blood by delving into hollow powers and essentially being part hollow thus a vizard, something the society swears to destroy, even further goes into that hole by being part quincy thus being mixed blood, bypasses the original method of getting a zanpakto initially, the list could go on and on)

the show almost represents progressive action given its essentially old farts finally changing the rules for modern times.

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