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[-] ghostalmedia@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

Not a great day for social media. Twitter down, Reddit has not 3rd party apps, Lemmy is being hugged to death by people bailing Reddit and Twitter.

I guess I’ll go outside.

[-] NettoHikari@social.fossware.space 23 points 1 year ago

Lemmy isn't hugged to death. The issue is that everyone is just heading to the same handful of instances.

[-] rin@pcglinks.com 6 points 1 year ago

I didn’t realize this until I started self-hosting my own instance, but if you don’t join one of the 3 large instances (beehaw, world, ml) then you miss out on a LOT of historical content. The way federation works is that it only pulls in new post/comments after someone on your instance subscribes to a community on another instance. So if you find a cool new community on another instance, you can subscribe to see any new posts and comments, but you won’t see any of the old content at all unless you manually search for the post/comment.

Long winded way of saying, the best user experience (content wise) is always going to be on the largest instances unless Lemmy/ActivityPub changes how content backfilling works.

[-] chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Here's the current usershare breakdown by instance, if anyone's curious:

A pie chart depicting the top instances by usershare. The lemmy.world instance is in the top spot with 1/3 of the total usershare. The majority of the remaining pie is shared between the next 17 largest instances. The remaining 1/5 of the pie contains all other Lemmy instances.

Source: https://github.com/tgxn/lemmy-explorer/tree/main/frontend/public/data

[-] IcedCoffeeBitch@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.world is getting a very big chunk, but other than that it actually seems fairly distributed.

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[-] Cartman@lemmywinks.com 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe they should update the join-lemmy.org page to suggest joining smaller instances. They put popular instances at the top and presumably that’s what everyone wants to join.

Yes, that's most likely the cause.

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[-] briongloid@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

2023 has been historical for social media, so much changing so fast.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

The instance I'm on is working fine, I think the problem is people are gravitating towards the largest 2-3 instances.

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 2 points 1 year ago

This is true. I was having a lot of issues with lemmy.ml it's getting overwhelmed. I wish there was an easy way to carry over subscriptions between accounts.

[-] African_Grey@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Just delete the account a make it on another instance? What’s the issue?

[-] cousinofjah@twit.social 1 points 1 year ago
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[-] arcticpiecitylights@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

I've been feeling a significant amount of sadness at the feeling like I've now fully lost the 2 places that were my havens for safety and community during the pandemic (Twitter and Reddit). I mostly disconnected a few weeks/months ago, but this weekend feels like the full, official breakup. I wonder if anyone/everyone else is feeling the same?

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Yesterday felt to me like the day Web 2.0 died. It's actually rather awkward. Web 2.0 devolved into enshittification, Web 3.0 to many looks to be a scam from the outset, and that leaves us with the Fediverse as the most hopeful continuation of what we liked about Web 2.0. But what is the Fediverse? More of the same as Web 2.0? An entirely new thing? I've been coming to view the Fediverse as being Web 2.0.1. It's a bug fix. The corporations controlling Web 2.0 were the problem, not the idea of a more dynamic and interactive web. The solution isn't strictly speaking Peer 2 Peer solutions, as many people still want a curated and moderated space, so they're not dealing with a constant onslaught of dicks and nazis they didn't ask for (I'm sure someday the Peer 2 Peer networks will have a viable solution for that, but for now, they don't as far as I can tell). But a networked governance structure in which volunteers own the instances and the users have more choice in how their space is moderated seems like a major fix to what we were seeing before, and I think it's a major benefit for all of us

[-] arcticpiecitylights@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I've been really intrigued by the developments coming from the Web0 / small web train of thought. https://web0.small-web.org/

[-] trekz@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

what is the Fediverse? More of the same as Web 2.0?

Fediverse seems more like it's bringing us back to Web 1.0, which is a good thing. That was a time when the internet was open and end-users drove the evolution of software—not greedy corporate shareholders.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely, and the coordination is deeply suspicious. Steve Huffman said he didn't want to be like Twitter, but then admitted in interview that he'd had several meetings with Elon. u/spez's nose is brown, and it smells musky.

[-] communication@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Totally. I was just thinking about how my very specific life circumstances mean that I'm otherwise distracted and handling it pretty well. But if I were in a rough patch right now this situation would be really, really, really hard. I hope the people in that situation are okay and finding new refuge in places like this ❤

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[-] 312@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

I truly don't understand why people keep trying to use Twitter despite open and obvious changes designed to be hostile to users. Not to mention the reliability issues that continue to crop up as a result of axing nearly your entire engineering staff.

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Some people can't figure out Mastodon, but I don't think enough of the people who can't figure out mastodon are realizing that nothing would be better than twitter. And I mean literally just not doing social media anymore would be a marked improvement over using twitter

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[-] Polo421@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago

Imo, there was no greater news aggregator than 3rd party Twitter apps. I will miss them very much. A couple of my favorite sources are not on Mastodon (yet?) and the 3rd party apps aren't up to snuff yet. Hopefully we get there one day.

[-] azureeight@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

sunk cost fallacy is a hell of a drug. it's also why a lot of people stay in bad relationships (friends/romantic/family/etc)

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[-] QuantumEyetanglement@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

Let's get them over to Mastodon! #fediverse (yes I'm going all in)

[-] SMTRodent@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My choices now are

Mastodon
Lemmy
Kbin
Actually edit the novel

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

I'm overdosing on schadenfreude right now.

[-] hybridhavoc@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

The "scraping" they are claiming may be coming from inside the house, so to speak, as it appears they are DDoSing themselves.

[-] LittleKerr@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

NO WAY

HAHAHAH Musk you are a genius!!

[-] 70ms@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Okay, now THAT is fucking hilarious and if true, I'm living for it.

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[-] Helluin@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

appareantly theyre agressively rate limiting: 300 posts per day for new accounts, 600 for unverified, 6000 for verified

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I bet Elon is furiously Googling how to downgrade to a micro/free tier instance on AWS.

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[-] Walop@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Some people cannot seem to even be able to login.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

It's time to abandon Twitter to the fascists and bots.

[-] twilightmeow@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I have to say the silver lining in all of this is that decentralized forms of community building are on the rise, and this is a good thing. I don't think it's healthy to centralize all data and power in the hands of private companies that can decide to, oh you know, kill api access etc.

[-] DJDarren@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Just went over to Twitter for the first time in a while, and everyone's bleating about wanting an invite to Bluesky.

Meanwhile, Mastodon's over there just working fine and doing what they want Twitter to do.

It's bizarre.

[-] rimlogger@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Normies are confused by Mastodon and how it works. Tried suggesting it as an alternative on /r/worldnews and most people just said that it was too confusing; one guy said that he couldn't login but turns out he forgot which instance he had signed up for originally.

[-] hmrp@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago

Good! It's time to change to something with better potential than twatter

[-] ekZeno@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

I was able to login 🤷‍♂️

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