I will probably get shit for this, since it's a predominantly left leaning space, but until society starts acknowledging men's issues it will keep getting worse.

https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics

In 2021, men died by suicide 3.90x more than women.

In 2021, firearms accounted for 54.64% of all suicide deaths.

This article is an excellent example of what I am talking about. It does not even mention the disparity of suicide rates between the sexes despite it obviously being a huge outlier. Instead, they talk about how guns are the problem, even though a gun is just a method.

Taking away the easy methods to commit suicide might reduce the rate, but it does nothing to address to core issues that make people want to kill themselves in the first place. Instead of 5000 dead people you will have 5000 people who wish they were dead. Mission accomplished.

I find it interesting how much western countries have individualised the causes of sadness.

It's not that strange that people are often sick in a sick society. If you're depressed, it's likely that there are things that are causing or exacerbating that depression.

Give people homes, job security, less stressful jobs, and offer them a healthy work-life balance? Far easier to deal with and possibly even heal from trauma or serious health issues.

But that costs money. Selling people pills and self-help books? That makes money.

Everytime I see suicide statistics like these. I don't think of the deaths. I think of the misery each individual must have experienced in order to come to the conclusion that death was better.

Then I think about the nebulous political cloud surrounding these people and those who may have approached the conclusion but had the strength to carry on. I say nebulous because research is never going to encapsulate the reasons for one to kill oneself. If 50k in the US is the number who followed through, the numbers must be huge. I say this, because the suicide death statistic, is only the start of the problem - it's a scale.

Misery festers at all of us. Labels, drugs and conversation can help, but it's just burying the problem for it to resurface later. Until we start getting political movements towards human needs, this will continue.

I believe it. This place sucks. Criminals and assholes everywhere, at least in my life. People claw at you and fuck you over until your suicidal. I have no respect for America at all anymore. It feels like having to live with seeing your rapist everyday.

That and nobody cares. I sent out goodbye texts to a lot of people in my life. Literally no one cares. I've had people try to push me to suicide, stalk me, and give me death threats since 2020. Cops don't care.

I'm sorry maybe I'm a little triggered because this hits close to home, but seriously how the fuck can people claim "oh suicide is going up because guns"

Are they fucking blind to how things are going in the world? I'm so fucking livid right now. "Suicide is because guns" fuck off

Everything people need to live is getting more expensive, wages are stagnant if not falling with respect to inflation, and we are forced to work longer hours and have little hope for retirement. We are bombarded by stories of violence, drugs, and theft. Oh, and climate change is starting to destroy the livability of planet earth. There is zero surprise that people don't want to keep living under these conditions.

Gee, no healthcare, no mental healthcare, no dental, no public transportation, Republicans trying to cut social Security every five seconds and our taxes go to. . .what exactly?

Trump last gave corporations and banks about 1 trillion in tax breaks and that "trickled down" in the form of piss on your face and a final result of corporations laying off workers anyway and not strengthening the economy.

Friendly reminder that statistics like this that aren't adjusted per various should be taken with a grain of salt until the per capita* figures are available from the CDC.

Just like murder rates etc: if you take only the highest number of something and don't adjust by population it's unclear if it's actually worse than it has ever been or not. It's not even clear if it is worse than last year without per capita figures.

Not trying to minimize the tragedy of suicide but a lot of people read meaning into figures like this without context.

America is a fucked up shithole.

My best friend was one of them.

This will be a hot take for some but people opt out of a life that's pointless, miserable, painful, and hopeless. Preventing people from access to methods of opting out is but a palliative measure.

Sure, people can be dissuaded from making an attempt by making it difficult, but isn't it far better to address why people want to opt out in the first place? And of course, it's best to do both: prevent people from making attempts, and address any issues they might be having in their lives. Even better, provide "end-of-life" care for those who really have had it enough for whatever reason.

Why lock people into a miserable existence anyways? Someone might have been prevented from opting out, but if conditions don't change (and no, it doesn't always "get better"), you've got a person will just resent even being kept alive. What good does that do?

Now, for the trash take: I suspect suicide is a problem because suits can't make the line go up if people are killing themselves. The suits need people to consume and not kill themselves.

I was almost one of them about a year ago. I was horribly depressed and constantly thought about ending it. It was to the point where I was even planning out the letters I would write and how exactly I would do it. Thankfully I never committed. I cut off pretty much everyone from my hometown and went to a different highschool where I found a caring friend group.

People need hope that they can have a future and that it's one worth living. Without that, despair is a natural outcome. If our societies cared half as much about ordinary people as we do corporations and the military, there would be a lot less despair.

rising cost of living wages not rising with them scam of a healthcare system you will own nothing unless you slave away for the rest of your days

Color me surprised

The article only benchmarks the total number to percentage of Americans once then just talks about the total number increasing over time. It would be much more helpful to just see this as a relative percentage to total population as I'd expect that number to rise regardless as population continues to grow. Not disputing the data, but think that would be a better way to analyze it.