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[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 140 points 1 year ago (10 children)

This is stupid. I have no love for Overwatch or Blizzard - I've been boycotting them for years, in fact. But there are far, far worse games on Steam than OW2. The fact that, to my knowledge, it runs properly, doesn't have crypto miners built into it, and isn't just made from stolen assets already puts it at like a 5/10 at minimum.

I'm all for consumers standing up for themselves and being critical or poor products, but I really wish people wouldn't get caught up in these hate bandwagons.

[–] CumBroth@discuss.tchncs.de 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never left a Steam review before), but isn't the way Steam reviews work is that you either leave a thumbs up or a thumbs down? There doesn't seem to be any rating scale. The "score" displayed on this page is presumably based on the ratio between positive and negative reviews, and the only thing it tells you is that about 90% of players aren't convinced that whatever the game has to offer earnes it a recommendation, not that they all thought it deserved a 1 out of 10.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People feel overwhelmingly negative about the game. This is an accurate representation of that. I don't see the issue here. It's one of the few ways to get Blizzard to actually listen, they can't ignore the public perception here like they do on literally every other platform. It's a massive money hungry studio, no need to defend or feel bad for them.

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[–] yozul@beehaw.org 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These kinds of lists have to factor in popularity too though. Otherwise the top 1,000 would all be shovelware with 1 or 2 negative votes. It's not interesting or useful to point out that the games no one is going to play anyway are bad. A game that's popular enough to even make it onto the list obviously isn't going to actually literally be the worst game on Steam. That's just how it has to work.

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish Amazon worked that way. Sort by reviews and you get random Chinese garbage with 1 5* review from the importer's mom.

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[–] cjsolx@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

To me, the retaliation should be proportional to expectations, size of the dev, and the blatantness of the money grab. If you're gonna pull shit, expect to get roasted. It's our only defense against tactics in the gaming industry. My only concern is are we making enough of a dent in their wallet? Because if not then none of these shenanigans even matter.

[–] Unicode13051@lemmyf.uk 16 points 1 year ago

I agree for the most part. However, due to how Steam only lets its users review games in a binary manner of good or bad, and how prominent Overwatch 2 is (major publisher, highly advertised), I think this is a case where it is warranted.

It's easy to assume that everyone has the same level of interest and enthusiasm in the game's industry to follow all of the shitty practices, both in terms of development and just in general, that Blizzard has demonstrated over the years, but people like us are not the target audience for their ads and we aren't the people they're trying to get to play OW2.

Most people who fire up Steam don't know who Blitzchung is. They haven't heard about the whole breast milk thing, or about the bathroom camera thing. On top of that, they haven't looked into anything about OW2, so they won't know about how the game was only developed to move the previous entry's player base into the new fleecing "free"-to-play model. They won't know about the promised, yet cut content. They'll just see the banner ad and click on it to check to see what the game is all about. Seeing an immediate overwhelmingly negative review is going to make them pause and then check out the comments to see what's going on.

And also this is really the only way Gamers have to let their voices be heard against gaming companies like this. The statement of vote with your wallet doesn't work with a free-to-play title like this. It also doesn't matter, because whales are going to play it anyway and that's where all of their money comes from. The overwhelmingly negative review at the very least could potentially prevent additional people from falling victim to their schemes.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Overwatch is far from the worst game on steam but it is not a good game. It could be so much better if blizzard was still passionate about making good games but they are only passionate about nickle and diming now. We ALL need to stop giving them money. I gave in and bought diablo 4 and already stopped playing it, there's just not enough substance to keep me coming back... The seasonal stuff is just a boring grind and I just feel bad about giving them my money, especially with all I know about how they treat their own employees. Just done with them.

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I'm with you there. I regret buying D4 and it'd probably the last Blizzard game I'll ever buy unless MS cleans house when they acquire them.

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[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 131 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Doesn’t matter the reviews or review bombing to Blizzard. The fact remains that no matter how actually shitty the game is Blizzard is making record profits off of the game.

That’s all Blizzard looks at these days. Is it making them money? And the answer is an abundant yes. So for whatever hate there is, the fact that players are still handing them fistfuls of cash indicates full success to them.

[–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If they're making record profits why did they decide to come to steam?

I think their player numbers have dropped and they're trying to boost them.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve been mostly out of the loop for overwatch but my guess is so that can have even more recorder profits

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I shudder to think what they'll do for recordest profits

[–] roon@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're gonna do the profitiest profit that anyone has ever profited

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[–] ABotelho@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More money.

That's literally any of this is lol

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[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

I guess this could be a glass half full kind of situation.

But they also are not making as much money as they could have if they delivered on a good game. Even if they got only 5% of steam, that is still 95% of steam that didn't buy it.

Sure, you can make the argument that they still got into a new market. However, if your product was scientifically engineered to appeal to the most demographics, then only 5% of that market is concerning.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Review bombing doesn’t actually help anyone, it just makes people question the validity of user reviews in general.

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[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 25 points 1 year ago

But it's blizzard who bombed their own game...

[–] Faulty@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

9% of 75K reviews are positive. I'm very curious how many will be removed. Also does Blizzard have a review system for their games? Curious how these reviews could be considered "off topic" if there's no first-party system to compare them to.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reviews don't get removed, they're just hidden by default. And it's considered off topic if the content of the reviews is about something that a team at Valve determines to be unlikely to help a new player decide if they want to play the game.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Like this "review":

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[–] BabaYaga@reddthat.com 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For what it’s worth, pcgamer.com just had an article talking about this. They said it’s not really review bombing but more of a pulse check on how gamers feel about OW2. Battle.net doesn’t have a review system so this is just the first opportunity for gamers to express how they feel about the game in this way

[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

Well, there is the MetaCritic user score too. It currently sits at 1.4, so it should surprise nobody.

[–] Tinkerer@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good riddance, literally overwatch 1 game with more .icro transactions. Not to mention they took down overwatch 1 so you can't play it anymore.... not to me tonight the co-op was suppose to come out and be free they said nope we aren't doing it, then they did it and it's a paid feature as far as I know now. Blizzard is the worst

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And thats where it fricking belongs.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm not s fan but if you really think it's the worst game on Steam woof...

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yea, one thing I would love to see on Lemmy that I rarely saw on Reddit are level-headed gamers when it came to controversies.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Civility argument is about protecting the powerful. Let people have opinions. We all know why people are upset. Downplaying it just makes someone sound like an apologist.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

People are voicing their opinions, what's the big deal? We should all agree with these gamer tantrums?

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should all agree with these gamer tantrums?

no, why should we? But should gobble up the lies and the shit corpos give to use? No, absolutely not.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

No, I would think the proper response is to stop playing this game and giving it attention rather than continuing to play it but leaving a negative review. Whatever, we're all free to do as we please, but the decision making doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It's also clearly not the worst game on Steam, because people still want to play it.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Tantrums" show your true purpose: denigration.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah these review bombings are ridiculous, so what? Am I not free to express my opinion? And I'm not quite sure how anyone's not allowed to have their opinion, if it's dumb then you can call it dumb.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

It's not a review bombing to review a deliberately hostile game as a bad game.

[–] sardior@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are the reviewers not allowed to express their opinions even though other people think it's dumb?

[–] whatisallthis@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why is it on the reviewer to be level-headed and not the consumer?

Take some personal responsibility. If you see a game at 1/10, read the reviews. Do some research.

You’ll get much further teaching yourself to be smart instead of teaching society to be smart.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

it belongs there because its simply Overwatch 1 without all the features promissed for Overwatch 2. 80 gigabytes from /dev/random has more worth that this "game" and its cheaper!

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[–] Kaliax@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago

If there was a proper way for people to express the problem then that would be great. But, as it stands with F2P games, and ones as complicated as Overwatchs history, well, fucking Steam slaughter is AN option for most. Fuck the game and company, there are no redeeming values. Even if these there is a dilution of review efficacy, oh well.

[–] SyJ@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't know it was on Steam. Had that stupid blizzard launcher just for OG Overwatch

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They released it on Steam on August 10th because player engagement was on the decline: https://gamerant.com/overwatch-2-player-count-down/

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[–] aman25ta@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

I think they just released it

[–] Magnus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Review bombing is the only impactful way in recent years that has worked against these large publishers. Plus Overwatch is F2P so the old trick of just saying don't buy it doesn't work, they will still get a player base with giant "whales".

Edit: Never played the game btw

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