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[-] locke@sopuli.xyz 100 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

People who make twice my salary are pretty competent. The people who make 10-100 times more however....

[-] ooterness@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago

I didn't know about that. At my company, the head of HR (3.5x average salary) recently told everyone, "If you want a higher salary, go work at [rival company]." This was onstage in front of ~150 people.

[-] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Probably needed to downsize without the confrontation or unemployment or severance.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's true though. Your salary range is determined at the initial negotiations. After that, your salary will only rise with a few percentages. For a real raise, its best to have a new initial negotiation (and shoot for the stars), wheter at a new company, a new department or a new function.

[-] Instigate@aussie.zone 6 points 5 months ago

This becomes truer with each passing day, and is a big factor as to why young people job hop so often - if their talents aren’t being adequately remunerated the only redress they have is to find a better job with better pay. It seems strange to me that experience within a company and your tenure of service are no longer being rewarded, but perhaps that’s just another expression of how commodified our labour has become.

[-] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

We must work at the same org, we got that recently too

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

Almost like there's some sort of caste system...

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 74 points 5 months ago

I once met a guy who made at least 20 times what I make and didn’t know how to spell dolphin. He was a bit better than me at trading commodities though.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 5 months ago

trading commodities is truly the most important skill to making society function, god only knows how we'd survive without people who make bets with other people's money

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

So... Poker? But without the flash and with the chance to genuinely throw the economy into chaos?

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[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 61 points 5 months ago

This happens at my job a lot lol I'll need to do something that I don't have authorization to do so I have to ask a manager, they have no idea what the policy is, why I'm asking them about it, or how to actually do any of it. They end up just doing a screen share and letting me make the change from their system

[-] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 53 points 5 months ago

The worst part is, they never learn… it’s always the same damn questions, every damn time.

[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

No wonder data breaches are a when and not if…

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The weakest part of any security system are the people ...... your security is only as good as the people who use the system.

I don't work in any corporate systems but I know many people who work in factories, mines, government, hospitals, institutions who should all know or at least be aware of the most basic digital security measures ... yet the majority of their passwords for everything is still 12345678 ... a good number of them also share personal emails with their name and birth year on it.

Almost all of them either have never heard of or just don't like using two factor authentication.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago

"hey boss i need access to your bank account to fix this thing"

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 46 points 5 months ago

There are legitimately situations where a meritless person is mooching off of an organization because of corruption (e.g. cronyism, nepotism, abusing union). And then there are situations where a person appears completely incompetent, but has this one unique skill or asset that makes them absolutely invaluable to the company (e.g. savant, schmoozer, someone with connections). It's important to be able to tell them apart.

[-] alyth@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

someone with connections

cronyism, nepotism

goes hand in hand :)

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[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

We have an Excel expert, its in no way his job but god damn that man is helpful. He is also a combative asshole when he is in a mood.

People are like "How do you put up with him" and I dont tell them "Because he found ways to make 2 hours of administrative work take 30 minutes."

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[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm sure when this guy retires you will be doing his job on top of yours with no additional pay increase.

Line.

Go.

Up.

That said, it is the 1% vs the working class. Don't let them divide us against each other.

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago

Literally happened at my work place a couple months ago.

Boomer coworker who's job was basically to order supplies and do the last step of processing accounts so we can bill them retired after like 35 years and bought a house in Arizona to fuck off there. Her job was just split among our phone operator and annual control policy department. What she got paid a lot of money to do for 8 hours a day and complained constantly about the other two people do in a couple hours a week and is easy peasy according to them. Of course they didn't get a raise, if they had come to me with that I would have declined or quit if they insisted. Fuck that.

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[-] Toes@ani.social 40 points 5 months ago

One of my first jobs, anytime I needed an administrator password I had to get the manager. And I was tasked with updating Adobe Reader and Flash on each workstation, and she would stand there to type in the password as I went to each computer. (⁠ノ⁠ಠ⁠益⁠ಠ⁠)⁠ノ⁠彡⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 5 months ago

The fact that you had to update software manually on each computer speaks volumes about how bad that company was being run. Sccm has existed since the mid 90s.

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

Ms365, onedrive, and teams integration makes me feel like the PDF saver.

I'm fucking smart and I crush my job, but the way they've "integrated" all of their dumb services has me asking my team to "just send me a $&@$ing email with the pdf".

My job isn't MS office guru. My job involves using PPTs, docs, XLS, etc to get funding, effect strategy, guide investment, brief senior leadeahip, and all that. But holy shit I feel like I turn into a clown/Luddite with dumb MS office tools.

[-] bier@feddit.nl 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I work in software development, I understand websites, webservices and the backend it all runs on at a pretty deep level.

But I never owned an Apple device. So whenever my wife (iMac user) has a problem and I try to help, I struggle with all the basic shit. I don't know the interface, don't know the menu structure, don't have muscle memory for basic key bindings (like copy paste).

Same with my parents, a few years ago my dad gave my mom his old iphone, didn't do any factory reset etc. She used logged out his apple id and logged in hers. But the apps he installed refused to update, very little information from the device about the problem. They don't know you shouldn't do this and just give me the phone and say apps don't update. It took me a while to figure out what the hell was even going on.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

I just refuse to help with Apple stuff. My family knows my disdain, if you're on apple and can't figure something out, you made your bed now you lie in it lol

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

Same, the only person I do humor with an attempt is my mom but everyone else I just say 'sorry don't know apple'.

[-] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 months ago

Yeah I get you.

Onedrive seems so bizarrely complex. My entire organisation is 5 people. We just want a big shared folder with all our stuff.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Teams groups have web pages with sharepoint folders. Any file shared in the teams chat is automatically shoved into the root of it.

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[-] HopingForBetter@lemmy.today 35 points 5 months ago

Yeah...

Used to be a document controller for a QA dept. My manager sent me emails to print out for him and then wanted them scanned back into the computer so they were saved as .pdf

I "definitely" didn't just print to .pdf and sit at my desk most of the day.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago

But they'd probably be mad you didn't do it their way.

I suspect they do know there's better ways but they want you to jump through hoops like a trained pig. Fuck em.

[-] HopingForBetter@lemmy.today 21 points 5 months ago

Lol. That's why I kept a recycle bin next to my desk; "empty" it in the AM, "fill it" on my way out. Didn't waste paper because it was the same scrunched balls.

[-] Retrograde@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Lol picturing this is hilarious. Did you just put the same scrunched balls inside a desk drawer and casually play basketball with the balls during the day? 😂

[-] HopingForBetter@lemmy.today 8 points 5 months ago

Defintely not.

[-] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You work on computers, they work on people. Part of their job is coding on their bosses for more money, while you write a script to automate something. Hard skills vs. soft skills.

If you want, you could develop those people ~~manipulation~~ coding skills and be twice as valuable as them.

[-] IMongoose@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

You're giving some of these people way too much credit. I work IT and I deliberately avoid watching some people whose job it is to use a computer use a computer. Any deviation from the norm and they are lost. ANY deviation. I've seen people get confused when a box opens up in a different spot. I completely understand that everyone has different skill sets but some people have not progressed very far into their skill tree.

[-] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Some of them, sure. Usually old people that ran out of neuroplasticity 40 years ago. But there are a lot more that function well enough and IT guys (specifically the guys, IT gals usually either have a better idea or hide it better) have a tendency to think of them as useless, where if they had to do their job for a day they'd be as lost as an old guy spooked by the window location change.

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[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 21 points 5 months ago

Me watching some guy think his salary is worth more than someone who does and knows things completely different from them just because they know how to save as a pdf

😷😷😷

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

"me watching a senior dev who makes more than me try to brief senior leadership"

We all have our talents. Some stuff is "table stakes" baseline stuff, but with the way MS has bungled their software these days I'll never judge anyone for not knowing how to do something "simple" because MS has made most tasks infuriatingly difficult.

[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 7 points 5 months ago

The main issue I had was that it’s dismissive of all other talents the person likely has to have gotten this far. Obviously sociopath c-levels are just there because they’re soulless, but this meme wasn’t talking about those people shrug

[-] Squorlple@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

My boss has called me into his office multiple times to help him with Microsoft Excel

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Boss: why can't I just print Wikipedia?

I swear I remember somebody telling that story once.

[-] Minotaur@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Hey if you’d ask the people on this site, higher positions always entitle themselves to higher wages.

We really gotta have some kind of actual initiative to restructure wages around actual work lol

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Huh? This is the most flat org / workers rights / collectivist board I've ever seen

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