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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

Some of the instances that we have chosen to defederate with have explicit political stances and ideologies. Their political stance and ideology had nothing to do with the choice to defederate. The choice to defederate was based on the amount of hate speech present on the instance and/or explicitly endorsing it.

What fucking hate speech, you weasly, lying shitlib. Your kind cheers on Russian deaths, calling them “orcs”, then you have the audacity to accuse us of hate speech? Go on, make more orientalist posts about China, and then come back and lecture us on hate speech.

The only “hate speech” I have is the hate for your dogshit, genocidal politics.

Our instance explicitly disallows and bans bigotry, and he’s going around posting this shit

Edit: And thinking about it more, the admins are basically agreeing going "fuck the devs we would switch off if we could", after everything the devs did to placate them, offering to pay for server hosting, putting them and not us on the reccomended server list, explicitly pinning posts asking people to go else where, and they're still shitting on them for "muh evil tankies!!!". The devs should have never listened to these whining liberals, and I think should maybe defederate from beehaw themselves like holy fuck you can't trust liberals for anything

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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago
[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Your kind cheers on Russian deaths, calling them “orcs”, then you have the audacity to accuse us of hate speech? Go on, make more orientalist posts about China, and then come back and lecture us on hate speech.

That's almost precisely the point. These shitlibs don't consider that type of speech "political." They have such a warped idea of what politics is. That kind of speech isn't hateful and political in their tiny brains, it's "common sense" and apolitical. Politics for them is exclusively Team Red vs. Team Blue, or whatever the local colours are.

[-] coderade@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

It’s not politics if it’s just common sense. Capitalism is the end of history. It doesn’t get any better than this. Stop questioning so much

(/s)

Our instance explicitly disallows and bans bigotry, and he’s going around posting this shit

Also note that basically everyone banned for bigotry on lemmy was from beehaw, sopuli, feddit and other lib instance. Even Dessalines activated when the shitlibs started malding about being banned and told them it is how it is.

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

exactly it's racism and thinly veiled hate speech central over there (I dare you to find one positive post about China), and yet this is the excuse they use for defederating from us? I wish Dessalines and nutomic weren't so nice (ironically), they should have been clapped for this awhile ago

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Gotta love the Lockheed Martin left.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How do liberals not suffocate under the burden of their own farts?

Pictured below: Pearl clutching liberals "soft" forking Lemmy with no code changes for "moral reasons"

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

This is still one of the funniest pictures I've seen to date

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I, I have no words, WE went though all of this, they tried to get us blackballed because we were communists, lead the charge to get every instance to block us because we refused to be liberals, and now they are saying that, our being communist had nothing to do with defederating? Do they expect us to have no memory, or do they expect the new exidus to fall for it, and renew the push on Lemmy.ml and Lemmy.world ect. to blackball us agian. We have and always will stand aganst hate speech and against fascism. If you bothered to listen to us maybe you would know that, but once more all I can say is BEEHAW SHAKES FIST

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Too true. Also some lib is lurking here and downvoting, stay mad moron

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

our being communist had nothing to do with defederating?

Silly tankie. Don't you know that anyone who isn't part of the US state department compatible left isn't a real communist? /j

Do they expect us to have no memory, or do they expect the new exidus to fall for it, and renew the push on Lemmy.ml and Lemmy.world ect. to blackball us agian.

Since we're talking about an exodus of redditors, they might not even need the push to defederate.

[-] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

What the hell is a beehaw anyway? Sounds like a shitty corporate name for an app nobody needs.

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Its almost exactly that

[-] aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

What the hell is a beehaw anyway?

It's YeeHaw appropriation.

[-] TheGreatSpoon@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the only kind of politics that are banned here are those which enable hate speech such as fascism

What's with all the backlash? They just announced they're banning anything promoting the US state (ergo CIA) or NATO. Sounds like a W to me.

Jokes aside and at the risk of sounding like an armchair intellectual, this is sort of a small scale experiment proving why liberals make peaceful progress impossible. Dating back to the colonial era, they love writing walls and walls of vague idealist text (especially the part about the psychology of internet users reads like a middle schooler padding out an essay) about the moral virtue of their actions to distract from the fact they are shamelessly plundering, murdering and exploiting others. In this relatively harmless case, exploiting the devs ideological conviction and choice to show vulnerability. Using their resources to take the platform for their own, despite quite ironically being in direct in violation of their own conceptions of intellectual property that are supposed to be so non-negotiable.

Maybe that's why liberals are such firm believers in private property to begin with. Not due to principle, but because they project their shameless opportunism on us all; they fear others will do to them what they have done and continue to do to their vulnerable targets of choice.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

back to the colonial era

Don't forget the apologism for that era in the OP. A kind of liberal version of 'no ethical consumption under capitalism' but with no concept of working towards a system that allows for the possibility of ethical consumption – outside capitalism.

Highlighting that we can't avoid using tech with problematic roots isn't enough if you're going to keep pouring fertiliser on those roots to keep the rotten tree growing.

The phrase is meaningless unless it implies, 'no ethical consumption under capitalism, therefore we must overturn capitalism'.

[-] aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Highlighting that we can’t avoid using tech with problematic roots isn’t enough if you’re going to keep pouring fertiliser on those roots to keep the rotten tree growing.

Fucking gold.

[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I like how liberals will seriously consider refusing free food, if they suspect the anonymous donor has Karl Marx undies. Do they expect to defeat the actual Nazis by politely declining to buy goods made in concentration camps?

Crackpot theory: Beehaw or a conglomerate of lib instances will become owned by an entrepreneur group, then try to pull the good ol' MS EEE on the rest over time. Call it Digg v3.

[-] ratboy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I created my first account on beehaw, but when i realized that they blocked this instance I created a lemmy.ml account. I engaged with someone on that post who was surprised that hate speech was being thrown around here. I said "it's because theyre marxist leninist, go look for yourself" and they were so confused because there was no hate speech to be found. Essentially they were like "um I don't agree with MLs on a lot of things, but they aren't nazis. So what's the issue?" So I'm positive that there are people being turned away who otherwise would want to interact with y'all.

It's pretty fucked that they are equating discourse here to hate speech because of course people aren't going to do their own investigating. They will just assume that yall are planning the next white uprising and flinging the F slur around.

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's pretty annoying, luckily I think beehaw is shooting themselves in the head by deferederating with lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works

[-] aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Beehaw is a community of individuals and therefore does not have any specific political affiliation.

Yep. Lies in the very first sentence. The Myth of Neutrality.

[-] oracuda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Beehaw is a massive fucking joke.

[-] Awoo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

If it wasn't politically motivated then why is Hexbear blocked when it's not even a federated instance yet? You know, the only lemmy in existence that enforces visible pronouns by every single username... Hatespeech? Bullshit.

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Holy shit. They did proactively block hexbear.

That's a little telling, isn't it?

How do i put it: I have never heard about ultras et consortes taking over fascist sub on reddit, but at least three huge communist subs were and immediately ML's were purged.

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Then they say it's the MLs who coup subreddits.

[-] ergifruit@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

[dismissive masturbatory hand gesture] the actually vaguely progressive people that got conned into going there instead of an actually decent lefty instance are in for a fun surprise in a couple months.

[-] roux@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Is it just a formatting thing or is that just one long ass paragraph?

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Formatting issue, it looks fine if you actually go there

[-] roux@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah alright.

Also holy shit I read through some of those comments.

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah it’s bad -_-

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

yeah, I heard about those people with politics that I don't like, so I logged in and posted a racist picture and they banned me. Here's the picture. You were right, they didn't like it! Smdh. I'm glad that in this space, I can say and do bigoted things because we keep saying #safespace.

[-] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I support beehaw forking so I don't have to see their shit takes every time I go on lemmy.ml for the actual discussions.

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly, ban 'em all to a man, tear down their instance, and blacklist the creation of names like it, I say. They wanna whinge, whine, mald, and tantrum about the kinds of people who built this motherfucker for them, the people who had this place warm for them when they first turned up and started colonizing, cool.

They clearly don't need the hard drive space they're taking up. Fuck 'em, fuck their feelings, fuck what flimsy 'convictions' they have, fuck their mealy-mouthed mod staff.

I went from "you're too harsh" to "what a mild opinion" by clicking just two threads on "all".

It's just reddit out there now.

[-] Jonathan12345@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Same bro. The last time I checked lemmy was just lemmygrad, but green.

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

And not just Reddit, either, it's like... if Tankiejerk and GenUsa had a baby.

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Not GenUsa (yet), more like every mainstream sub, tankiejerk and enoughcommiespam together

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