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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 133 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

It's incredible how every Islamic faction that's involved has been way more cautious and careful for this entire conflict than Israel. I really admire their restraint! Israel is trying to escalate things left and right, but every other faction is trying to keep things from blowing up.

If Biden doesn't jump on this then he wants Trump to win.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago

Israel has nukes and is itching to use them.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Standing by and watching a genocide take place isn't all that admirable in my opinion.

It looks like the Biden regime has already jumped on it. Apparently all it ever took was a phone call. The mass murderers have called off the genocide and are pulling out of Khan Younis.

[–] mihies@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

US aren't merely standing by and watching, they are enabling it actively.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago

I meant the other Arab states.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Standing by and watching a genocide take place isn’t all that admirable in my opinion.

Yeah but getting involved means being bombed to hell by NATO, so governments are not keen on that. Even indirect involvement like the Yemeni blockade effected in this. In case of Iran it might even spark a world war.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 7 months ago

The Yemenis can hold their heads high.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago

Standing by and watching a genocide take place isn’t all that admirable in my opinion.

I mean the Houthis weren't, but there's only so much you can do when the US has two aircraft carriers and implications next to you.

[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 76 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Watch as the US still doesn't press Israel into a ceasefire. It's becoming increasingly apparent that conflict in the Middle East isn't an unfortunate circumstance but a goal of American foreign policy.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

America? Wanting instability in an oil-rich region? That's pretty much as optimally equidistant from the most major first-world economies as is possible?

No. Way.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

America does want an unstable middle east but tbf the middle east is basically next to Europe, which really felt the past few refugee crises.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

America also seem to want an unstable Europe recently

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

An unstable Europe buys American weapons.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And it easier to scare, control and exploit.

[–] besbin@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Well, the last time Europe was super unstable was WW2 where they burnt the whole thing down by themselves. That led to the US ascension. The USA would be super happy for another chance like that.

[–] livus@kbin.social 66 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well that's just threatening them with a good time.

Netanyahu doesn't want a ceasefire and he does want Iran to attack and draw the US into the conflict.

[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Netanyahu only wants one thing, and it’s to stay in power for as long as possible. If a regional war gives that to him (via Ben-Gvir), he won’t mind.

Edit: He currently holds a parliamentary majority. If he agrees to a ceasefire, the more extreme members of his coalition will no-confidence him together with the opposition. And, as it stands right now, he has no chance of participating in the next government.

[–] livus@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago

Pretty sure he needs conflict to stay in power and he needs power to shield him.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

When Trump imposes fascism in the USA, think back on how Israel fucked us over.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 38 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Who I predict will be blamed:

  • Russian bots
  • TikTok
  • Gen Z and/or Millenials
  • The fediverse
  • Hamas
  • Our homeboy from Philly, Bibi Netanyahu
  • Anyone but Biden, just as in 2016 it was anyone but Clinton
[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

-Qanon

-4chan

-people who didn't vote hard enough

[–] TC_209@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The US is already a fascist regime and has been for longer than either of us have been alive.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nonsense, it’s not fascism until the pointy end is facing me, until then it’s sparkling oppression.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Isreal be like: