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Based bus gate (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by mondoman712@lemmy.ml to c/fuck_cars@lemmy.ml

If you want to read the rest of the artice: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/notorious-birmingham-bus-gate-snares-25884013 just make sure you have ad block enabled.

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[-] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago

I don't like the article's use of the word "snares" - it's not as if it's a trap they're being sneaky about. There are signs everywhere, there's painting on the road, there's continual press coverage, and there are wide and well-signposted turning areas for private cars on either side of the bus gate. Anyone who gets "snared" by this is clearly driving while not paying attention, and deserves more than a fine IMHO.

[-] big_duck_energy@partizle.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dude, 46,000 cars in 9 months. It's clearly a poor implementation.

[-] Confused_Idol@lemmy.fmhy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

I think you underestimate the extent to which the average motorist will break rules if they think they can get away with it.

[-] bettybarcode@urbanists.social 5 points 1 year ago

@Confused_Idol@lemmy.fmhy.mThis is why they detest speed cameras. In most places, most of the time, they can drive with impunity and they know it.

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Looking at it on Google maps, the road markings and signs are very clear.

Although I do see an issue with routing: Getting from Albert street to Selfridges by car takes twice as long as walking. But that is not the bus gate, but die to many roads being closed for HS2 construction.

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Although I do see an issue with routing: Getting from Albert street to Selfridges by car takes twice as long as walking. But that is not the bus gate, but die to many roads being closed for HS2 construction.

This is intentional, as per the city centre segment scheme. This area should really only be driven in to access somewhere within the zone, not to pass through.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Based. Just like HS2.

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The council has photos showing the signage on their website if you want to check it out: https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/directory_record/136446/moor_street_queensway_outside_moor_street_station

[-] notatoad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I read this as "Birmingham made a shortcut that only rich drivers can use"

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Birmingham made a shortcut for bus users. I'm not sure the city council would be able to implement income based fines itself, so the flat fines are probably the best that they can really do.

[-] notatoad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

A lot of places do physical barriers that only open for buses.

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Having looked at the timetables for the bus stops just ahead of this, I think the barrier would spend most of its time open.

[-] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

They should do it based on income.

[-] animist@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago
[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

That would be 1680 cars per day.

It seems a bit unrealistic to me.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

If it was it is probably moreso an issue with the gate

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Wonder if this is due to the issue with the signage or just idiotic drivers

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

You can judge for yourself if the signage is adequate from the council's photos, but I think the fact that I can see that the lane is painted green and says "BUS GATE" on it from the thumbnail image kind of gives it away.

https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/directory_record/136446/moor_street_queensway_outside_moor_street_station

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