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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 157 points 5 months ago (17 children)

Why the fuck would you need to track pregnant people? Only to find and punish them when they go through an abortion huh?

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 96 points 5 months ago (2 children)

now now, let's be fair

it's also so that evangelicals can ban recreational sex

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago (2 children)

...While masturbating furiously to incest porn on the internet.

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Dont forget transfem porn.

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[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They're just trying super hard to make America a worse place to live for some reason.

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[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Precisely. They aren't even trying to hide it. The writing is on the tin.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

And considering abortion isn't illegal in every state, this is even more of an overreach than if it were.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Or a misscarriage.

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[–] mydude@lemmy.world 84 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (13 children)

This is the cognitive dissonance politicians need to have in order to be a good tool as a techno fascist for the exploitation-class.

[–] johker216@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 66 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Well, you see, the logic here is simple; gun ownership is a constitutionally protected right, and women don't have rights.

[–] dunidane@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 5 months ago

I hate that you are right. I wish that we could say that the existence of the 9th counts just as much for the right to bodily autonomy but that's not what these shit heads will agree to.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And the irony is that this is coming from a woman

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

She their useful idiot. Find someone willing to sell out their entire group for clout. She is young enough that if republicans gain full power she will still be around when they start to talk about how women shouldn't hold office.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 61 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Let's definitely not have either of those things.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What if we just had universal health care, rather than a massive suveillancr state

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

Nah. I'm ok with the gun database. We have one for cars. Firearms should be there too.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (21 children)

Yes, but let's do the gun one also.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

CA has one. And they've already leaked the data to hackers, I think twice now. So if some tech savvy thieves wanted to target specific houses, now they have a list.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I worked for a gyne who did abortions and got the pathology reports. Every one said the same thing "the specimen contained spongy pieces of hemorrhagic tissue". It's so microscopic and it's absolutely not like what anti choice assholes claim it is. It is so insignificant.

Have the abortion. Don't hesitate. Get on with your life. It's what matters, not a piece of tissue. It's your choice and nobody else's. You deserve to be happy and safe and not forced to go through hell.

FWIW I'm Christian and still incredibly pro choice. Don't believe any of their propaganda. They lie.

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[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Give the fetuses guns? With that work?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

If it was possible Texas would have made it mandatory by now

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[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

The NSA already has the database and is tracking both of those anyway under secret FISA warrants.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fact that you think they get warrants to collect data into that database is cute.

[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

They probably have like one warrant that's basically just a blank check to spy on anyone.

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[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

Better watch out for the IRS, SSA and not to mention all those state DMVs. They know what you make and what car you drive!!!!111oneone

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't recall the "NSA plan to track women's periods" in the Snowden dump. And so many gun sales are cash-and-carry that it's not something they can manage easily.

For any given person, I'm sure the FBI could figure it out with time and effort. But there's no national tracking database for all guns and pregnancies

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why do they even need a database of pregnant women? I get that GOP is trying to take away a woman’s autonomy and all that, but what’s the official public reason they’re giving?

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 months ago

Prego but no live baby ? Jail!

Still birth? Jail!

Miscarriage? Jail!

Crossing state lines while prego? Jail! (You might be trying to get an abortion)

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I also want to know their reasoning too, but what I REALLY want to know is if they are aware that pregnancy isn't permanent? The more I think about this the more questions I have.

Who is gonna update that database? How many tax dollars are they willing to spend paying people to deal with implementing this? I know the purpose is to convict women for abortions and miscarriages, which is fucking horrific...but then I think about how people keep cars for far longer than a person is pregnant and how the DMV is not the model for efficiency.

Holy shit this whole thing is equal parts horrifying and laughably stupid.

Sorry about my weird tangent... your question got my brain asking questions and I don't think the actual answers will be much help.

"why has this woman been pregnant for 27 years? ... HOW has this woman been pregnant for 27 years?!"

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[–] Princeali311@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Well, every birth inevitably leads to a death, whilst guns might but they're not guaranteed to.

So obviously, you need to keep track of the most deadly kind of people, pregnant women, more so than a not quite as deadly kind like gun owners.

True, the case can be made than a single gun can result in multiple deaths whilst a birth will only ever result in a single death, but none the less the statistics don't lie and they show that a lot more deaths can be traced back to a birth than they can to gun ownership.

I once watched a woman walk into a supermarket just openly being pregnant. Fortunately she behaved, because some of the other folks were concealed pregnant.

[–] hedidwot@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

A single birth can result in multiple deaths in the situation of murderer being born, so you might actually be right.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can't expect decency from trash. Trash like this will always ignore how trashy they are. If there were a way to compel them to tell the truth I bet there isn't a single real maga in the country who really believes in their god.

[–] MalachaiConstant@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I'm not sure about that. In my experience, it's how they justify everything. The ones I've known personally seem to genuinely believe their god wants them to inflict pain on others as part of some sort of divine warfare. They also tend to prefer the old testament, unsurprisingly

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 21 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Now the question remains.

Would they be in favour or against using guns to perform an abortion?

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The Governor of South Dakota has entered the chat

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[–] maniii@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

A Database that stores a List of Armed and Dangerous Pregnant women. All Pregnant women are given high-power Full-Auto weapon-of-choice and a License to Stand-their-Ground. Also another Database of Not Pregnant persons and who are also Armed and Dangerous but they can go buy their own weapons.

That way it is fair and equal to everybody and no one has to feel left out :-D

[–] MrMeanJavaBean@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

I wonder what's next, conceal carry permits for pregnant women to go out in public?

[–] elleybirdy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How are we living in this reality?

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