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[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 147 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Today is a slightly better day for the people of Iran. Especially for the women of Iran.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 105 points 6 months ago (10 children)

I'm not well-versed in Iran's politics, but is there actually any hope that his replacement will be any better for the Iranian people? I'd have to imagine that whoever is next in line would already be very much aligned with his existing policies.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 70 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Iran is religious lead, so unlikely. The real leader is Ali Khamenei whos title is "Supreme Leader"

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Also to add that Raisin was groomed to take his place, and apparently the guy Raisi was grooming to take his was also in the helicopter.

Khamenei is 85 years old.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That is actually pertinent information. If the supreme leader is seen as weak at 85, and the next two steps on the ladder are now vacant... Well let's just say that nature abhores a vacuum.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But it won't necessarily get better

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

In the end, it won't matter much. I'm not going to go so far as to say the President is a figurehead, but the real power in Iran comes from Ali Khamenei.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 18 points 6 months ago

The seat is going to another conservative politician, so probably not. One can always hope, though. Iranian civilians would really benefit from a more relaxed leader. Though the supreme leader is really the one running the show. Perhaps he will also get on a really old helicopter, flying in the extreme fog and rain, over a remote mountain range like this guy did.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 119 points 6 months ago

Big news, I'm going to pin this one for 24 hours.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 108 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The helicopter was an old American Bell, stopped production decades ago and parts are hard enough to come by. Sanctions work, they just manifest in mysterious ways such as this and Iran's terrible aviation service record in general.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 30 points 6 months ago

Instead of getting old fighter jets from Russia for those drones they sent, they'd probably have been better-off getting civilian helicopters.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Cue conspiracy on a CIA plan that took 50 years to yield results.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"So hear me out, we place a bomb in one of the Hueys and then stop supplying them with new ones, one day their leader will totally get on it and then we got em"

"Yo bill maybe slow down on the company acid please."

[–] oce@jlai.lu 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Too obvious. More like, "We're going to use slightly less lubricated ball bearings, position the aircraft on the market just where they will buy it, the maintenance specificity will not be documented, and it should kill a couple of important people in 50 years!". (Loosely inspired by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet)

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 months ago

it must have been delivered before 1978

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 62 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He's easily replaceable. Plenty more mullah bootlickers where he came from.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

that's not so certain. it also seems that he was supposed to be next supreme leader of iran, and crosssection of competent, fundamentalist enough to current big boss taste and having enough authority in irgc is almost empty now

and on top of that foreign minister that was also onboard was supposed to be next president. expect some power struggles

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are always power struggles. There will be a power struggle when Trump dies. That doesn't mean they couldn't easily replace him with some other useful idiot.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 6 months ago (7 children)

this is not a job for an useful idiot, this is job for next grand ayatollah and current one is 85 years old

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If there is a hell may the demons tormenting him be women.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 31 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Let's hope the same happens to all corrupted politicians around the world

[–] banana_head@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We just need to have our representatives enact a law that all heads of state must use Boeing.

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[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 months ago

He will not be missed.

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Two helicopters traveling with Raisi made their destination unharmed.

It looks like there were 3 helicopters and only the one carrying Raisi crashed.

So far I have heard it was due to bad weather and that the helicopter was old. If the upcoming investigations shift the narrative to something different than an accident, it could be extremely alarming.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is what we all hoped covid would have achieved with several more crappy world leaders lol.

Reminds me of Zia ul Haq dying in a C-130 plane crash, although that was purportedly an assassination via a crate of explosive mangos.

So far this just seems like an old heli in bad weather.

[–] finthechat@kbin.social 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is why I only buy normal mangoes. Explosive ones are too dangerous.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Let this be a lesson for putin..... everyone will be extremely happy when you are dead. Not just that, but just before they show you smeared on a cave's wall or a freeway or parking lot, everyone will probably hope really hard that you are gone. And when we finally get confirmation, that happiness will be extra gratifying. Imagine that!

More over let's count how many leaders of Iran are currently bathing in the sun at a private nude beach in Thailand drinking a margarita. Yup that number is exactly 0. That's because assholes don't survive their stupidity. So if you're thinking of trying to join the club, remember this day. This is how it will also end for you. Yeah it could have been entertaining to watch 10 men pull him out of a dirt hole like Hussain. But smeared on a big rock after ordering people to be stoned to death? I can see the irony.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Well deserved fate.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 11 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi, known for enforcing brutal crackdowns on political opposition and seen as a potential successor to the supreme leader, has died in a helicopter crash landing in the country’s north, state media reported Monday.

Raisi was sometimes notably referred to as the “Butcher of Tehran,” as activists have accused him of being one of the four judges who oversaw the mass execution of thousands of political prisoners in 1988 after the Iran-Iraq war.

“As deputy prosecutor general of Tehran,” the U.S. Treasury Department said in a 2019 sanctions announcement, “Raisi participated in a so-called ‘death commission’ that ordered the extrajudicial executions of thousands of political prisoners in 1988.”

“Ebrahim Raisi’s rise to the presidency follows an electoral process that was conducted in a highly repressive environment and barred women, members of religious minorities and candidates with opposing views from running for office,” Callamard said.

The Iranian regime is also accused of blocking social media apps, arresting journalists and punishing any public criticism of the government following Amini’s death.

Despite concerns over Iran’s attacks on human rights, Raisi was permitted to address the U.N. General Assembly last year, where he criticized Western states for meddling in Middle Eastern affairs.


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[–] mycathas9lives@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Today will be a turning point for the people of Iran. Hopefully for the better.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Change is unlikely. Conservatives are still in control, unfortunately.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago

I'm glad the embargo is working.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago
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