A criminal investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is ongoing.
Not going to hold my breath for any actual justice here.
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The cop will get off and slither to the department 2 towns over.
As is tradition. How many times must this happen before we start holding cops accountable for their actions? How can you uphold the law while standing on top of it and pissing all over it?
I'm adamant that we should mandate a 4 year law enforcement degree and a certification, issued by an independent community police board.
If a nurse causes a malpractice that is on their license for years and other states detect it. Cops nothing. We should have their full history accessible to the public.
A thousand times yes. We require those degrees to do so many far less critical jobs. It’s unreal how completely opposite this is for LEOs.
That is a Fund the Police position. More training doesn't fix a lack of consequences. You have to take money and/or freedom away from them for doing bad things, or you'll never see positive change.
I never said anything about giving more money to police departments.
Exactly. You were talking about the creation of large bureaucratic entities that would work hand in hand with police departments. What happens when police departments want to recruit. Maybe they can offer cheap loans to people who go to those universities. Maybe when officers retire, they can go work for those independent organizations that you're talking about.
All of the above is expensive, all of it makes large law enforcement even more entrenched in society despite value or lack thereof, and none of it has anything to do with accountability or oversight. You're proposing a solution that doesn't even address the real problem.
I wasn't expecting you to revive this discussion, but I'll still talk about it. I was suggesting that the independent oversight board is funded by diverting police funds. For it to be independent, we'd have to prevent former cops and their families from being on the board. Since the independent board is responsible for issuing the police licenses, that would be pretty easy to track.
For the record, I'm not saying that this is the only solution either. To me, this is a large part of the overall solution for ending police violence. There are a lot of police reforms I want to see, but we have to start somewhere.
But why would they hire him when the first department give him a glowing recommendation?
Oh, I see.
It might in this particular case simply because we're talking about an active duty military man who got murdered.
On the other hand, he was black and this is Florida, so who knows?
Two right wing symbols involved: military and police. Anything can happen here.
Sure but a black man was shot in Florida so I'm not holding out any hope here especially in that racist ass state that let a guy get away with killing a black kid over some skittles.
@stoly @inclementimmigrant Yeah, but he was a _black_ airman, so sure, the deputy got fired, but I’m not holding my breath that he won’t just be hired by another force nearby and the whole thing swept away.
I’m certain he gets hired elsewhere if there are no charges.
Dude even with charges, he might just have to go to a different state at most. But Florida's pretty big he can probably just go to the other side of the state.
Fuck Okaloosa County. I had a home there and I sold to get the fuck out of that shit show. Most beautiful beaches in the continental united states, with the most toxic fascist morons I have ever seen. We wanted to retire there but had to nope the fuck out.
For some reason that's just the way it works, I mean look at orange county
Hey now, they're better than Polk. Barely.
Now arrest him and see if he's at fault. Was he drunk, done this multiple times, or should have been fired before. You know, the normal investigating stuff we should do with every case like this.
Fired with a years severance? Accolades? I’m not used there being any real repercussions for this shit, so I’m just expecting the other shoe to drop.
“Oh now he’s a consultant for America first” or whatever rittenhouses bullshit dealio is
That’s a lot of moving around. Wonder why the officer didn’t stay with jobs. Of course, I would leave Altus as quickly as I could, too, so can’t blame him for that one.
He probably kept getting fired for murdering Black people. Terribly inconvenient, you know.
At least this one didn't get to resign first. Might reduce the number of departments where he can apply, though that number won't be anything near zero.