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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago

Wow, who would imagine that nobody wants to do an activity that you literally have to pay people to do on a regular basis? It’s almost like they’re not paying people enough and nobody wants to work for shitty wages.

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I ran a small business and found the opposite to be true (particularly with people straight out of college) if given training and support, respected and incorporated their ideas, and provided transparency into the running of and health of the business. My take away isn't that people don't want to work, it's that they want to be valued.

[–] neo@lemy.lol 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I agree. Unfortunately many companies "value" their employees in the same way they "value" the privacy of their customers.

"Transparency would make it obvious that our business model is based on your exploitation (e.g. DoorDash) and our goal is not fair compensation, but maximum profits for our shareholders... so instead of transparency we provide fruit baskets."

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Oh but the fruit baskets are for our customers. You'll be making them, not receiving them. And you'll be expected to put them all together today, including going out and buying the baskets and fruit, on top of your existing assigned tasks, in the same amount of time since we won't approve OT for this.

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Labor power and data are commodities. Why treat commodities with respect?

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For sure, what they mean is "no one wants to work for the appalling pay i offer, in the conditions I force them to work in."

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We paid as much as the market would allow (living wage with health insurance and retirement, but not extravagant by any means), so even wages appears to be flexible if you treat people like humans. The big take-away is that some business leaders just suck.

No one has ever paid as much as the market will allow.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago

Always remember: act your wage.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why is it such a shocking revelation that nobody actually wants to work? Left to their own devices people will make work up for themselves just to not go bored, but aside from that work is entirely a food shelter and other assortments thing.

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

I partly agree. But I also think that, for a large part of the population, they would feel a sense of duty towards their community, so long as the work is decent and they are respected.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 13 points 5 months ago

proof that time travel exists and gen z has been using it to infiltrate past generations

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

NOBODY WANTS TO LABOR!!! That's why you gotta pay people to do it

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

O tempora! O mores!

[–] neo@lemy.lol 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That post could use some sauce, I mean sources.

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

...as wage slaves under a system that continuously works to shuffle what little wealth they have up to the ruling class

[–] knacht1@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I don't. Retired and out to pasture.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago

My response to the people that are retired and watch fox "news" like it's their job and love to say this is: Yeah, no shit, I don't want to work either. Who does?

They then go on to say some bullshit lie about "well Biden", aaaaaand I walk away.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] neo@lemy.lol 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Admit it, you marked this as satire just to mess with AI models!

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You got me!

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Historically speaking, wage labour is actually quite new. Before wage labour became dominant, the usual career path was apprenticeship followed by self employment.