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Website: https://www.openkylin.top/index-en.html

Git repositories: https://gitee.com/openkylin

I haven't tried it myself yet but I might give it a spin since it has a unique Desktop environment.

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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With China embracing Linux, we'll likely see Linux pass Windows and MacOS at the most used OS in the world within a decade. China alone has a comparable population to the west, and then there are all the countries where China will be exporting their tech to around the world. Truly an exciting time to be alive where we might see Linux running on RISC-V based open hardware as the global computing standard!

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gonna be really funny watching the china bad foss communities start hating on RISC-V now.

[–] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

gonna be really funny watching lukes smiths out there loose space on the foss community.

(for those who dont know, he is a nazi linux content creator)

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

WHAT. He's a fucking nazi??? Ugh.

is it that surprising? he is a homophobic loser and i don't watch his vids but i think i stumbled upon one a while ago and he used a slur (dont @ me on that tho)

[–] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

yeah, he received an inheritance from a french nazi, literally if u search his name, you will come across an article of the guardian noticing this.

he does dog whistles like 14.88 and the list goes on.

[–] coderade@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be beautiful! Hopefully puts some pressure on the rest of the world to hop on the Linux train

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago
[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think you are forgetting someone 👀

Still won't make me abandon my ~~Stalinist~~ Stallmanist lifestylism 😤

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Deepin is Debian based. The linked article says OpenKylin was made from scratch - whatever that actually means.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Well LFS has been written by people all over the world, and the source code too. So I wouldn't agree with it being the 1st. It ciertanly is Chinese though, just like deepin.

Also it's nice to see them reach 1.0

[–] relay@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Well I did hear that the scratch programming language was turing complete.

[–] Tidal_Tempest@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I've read that OpenKylin is Ubuntu based somehow.

[–] FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From my so far limited experience of playing around with it for 30 minutes in a QEMU KVM, it does use the apt package manager but a quick look at /etc/apt/sources.list tells that they use their own repositories. Looking through the repositories of what they have to offer it seems that they aren't just mirrors from another distro but actually maintain their own packages and port some Ubuntu packages. A look through their Kernel Config zcat /proc/config.gz tells that they compile their own custom Kernel as well. Also it doesn't use snap at all, but they do offer it in their repositories. And for some reason there is dockerd/containerd pre-installed and pre-configured on the base System. My guess would be that they use docker for the Mobile apps, but I can't verify this right now since every time I try to install a Mobile app from the Software Store it tells me that I can't run a VM inside a VM. And unfortunately I don't have some spare Hardware to test at hand atm.

To answer your question; It seems like an independent distro utilizing the apt package manager and porting some Ubuntu packages. But I can't say for sure, since all of the documentation on their git repositories is written in mandarin.

[–] Tidal_Tempest@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

It seems like an independent distro utilizing the apt package manager and porting some Ubuntu packages.

Yeah, probably it just uses the tools like apt that also ubuntu uses. Though there is a Linux Youtuber who said "since the word "ubuntu" appears in the grub config file then it's not an independent distro", and I don't understand his logic, OpenSUSE uses rpms like Fedora but is considered independent. 🤔

[–] FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just copied the title from CGTN minus the text in the parenthesis.

Still won’t make me abandond my Stalinist Stallmanist lifestylism

Same.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah I know, I've realized after clicking on it and found who's really misleading. Let's just consider that my comment addresses CGTN and not you xd

[–] Comprehensive49@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully they can get the OS to work on Chinese-made RISC-V chips, so the entire ecosystem can stay in-house without any Western licensing.

[–] FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

It claims to support the VisionFive2 SBC/JH7110 SoC which is made by StarFive.

[–] savoy@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

It's great to see AES countries beginning to adopt Linux and FOSS, even if it's approached less from an ideological standpoint of FOSS == socialism and more from staying away from proprietary Western technology (Microsoft, Apple). If it's solely the latter, that's still the correct course of action.

"What's happening to Russian open-source developers gave a warning sign to Chinese developers," one user commented on knowledge-sharing website Zhihu.com, referring to many software makers being blocked from the open-source community just because they are Russian or not supporting Ukraine. "Software without borders is just a dream that will never come true, and China needs to build its own open-source community." ... "This new version signifies that we have gained the ability to lead the OS' development by ourselves," Zhu said. "I hope more users will try our new version and give us feedback."

This is great to hear!

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

At least, unlike GNOME, they got the font rendering, the spacing across icons and the desktop icons right. lol

[–] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JTurtle@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i havent verified for myself but i believe Deepin has proprietary components that make it not "truly" open-source like Kylin. or at least that's what ive heard.

also, i heard a lib say "if u use deepin u sold your soul to the seeseepee"

[–] cass@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

IIRC, Cuba also embraced FOSS to an extent.

I legit put a defense of it on a communist youth pamphlet we targeted toward the Compsci center. All countries that want any tech sovereignty should build FOSS stat

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