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Apparently most Americans. I can't go anywhere in my tiny car without the vast majority of the parking being filled with behemoths like this thing.
Holy shit, could you imagine getting a 2024 car with 16mpg.lol why?
Got to compensate for those insecurities bro.
I mean, I am going to use it to tow my boat everyday AND drive my 8 person family around 24/7, DUUUH
You drive a more fuel efficient vehicle? What are you poor or something? /s
You jest, but cars absolutely are a modern status symbol. To the point where getting a better car is the first thing the average American does when they make enough money to jump up a class. It's woven into the fabric of our society.
From the perspective of middle going to upper class, fuel economy is a staple of the class that still worries about paying for gas.
Yes, if it was an Aston Martin, not a pile of shit that looks like a pig having a seizure
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Have worked on these. Can confirm they're terrible. Possibly one of the worst vehicles on the market
Worst in what way?
Not trolling, actually curious.
Biggest problem: I've seen several kill their own batteries. Like 3V across both main and aux batteries. That's not really recoverable without battery replacement.
General quality control is bad (I have to be careful not to give details here. I like my job).
Subjectively, I just don't like the vehicle. It's the flagship for everything wrong with the auto industry. It's too big, too heavy, handles like shit, too many things to distract you from actually driving the fucking thing.
A friend of mine had a Wrangler Rubicon - built to drive straight up mountains, but never left a paved road in its life
At less than 5 years old, the oil pan rusted out. I live in an area that salts roads in the winter, but even 10 year old 80's cars back in the 90's didn't rust out that bad
Canyoneeeerooo~ Hya!
Can you name the truck with 4-wheel drive, smells like a steak, and seats 35?
I don’t even enjoy driving full-size trucks or SUVs. Though high up, they’re hard to see out of… the giant hood is on your way when off-roading and you can’t tell if you’re about to drive off a cliff. Can’t see children in front of the car, or anything behind it without a rear view cam. Poor stopping and turning, harder to park, terrible fuel economy.
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The F150 is the best selling truck for 46 years straight
The F150 is also the most sold vehicle for 41 years straight
People like their oversized vehicles, price/mileage/etc be damned
People like their oversized vehicles, price/mileage/etc be damned
They can always put some stickers on fuel pumps and bitch about Biden and blame him for their bad decisions.
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It's also worth considering how much of those sales come from companies buying fleets of them. Slightly different monster than private consumers.
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I love how JD Powell has a stupid award for everything (and they don't mean anything, they're just a stupid marketing company.)
Want to have a best truck award but don't have the best truck? Well, we can sell you a "Best Truck under 4 tons" award. Don't have the best truck under 4 tons either? We have a "Best truck under 4 tons under $45k" for you...
And it just keeps getting more ridiculous.
Best vehicle in class
Class of one vehicle
Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
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Going to the American version of the link required me to fill in a zip code... what kind of site are these people running?
They look for locations close to your zip because a zip doesn't reveal your entire address and your entire address isn't needed.
Then it gets an idea of your whereabouts and if you want to purchase a vehicle it looks at dealerships near you I think or if you order I think you can have it shipped to a dealership in your area.
I dunno, I don't buy cars.
90210
Saw one on the road.
"Wagoneer" is absolutely the top of my list for the STUPIDEST name for a vehicle. How that makes it out of any boardroom is just unfathomable.
The Wagoneer model started in 1963. Been around a LONG time. The classic models are actually pretty cool, but the 2024 is generic.
I recall renting a Grand cherokee in 2016 and being disappointed to find it was like driving a caravan in a lot of ways. Nothing like the older Grand and regular Cherokees I use to own.
The "new" Cherokee seems to be like a slightly larger Patriot clone. It's like the movie industry creating new movies with old names. The new stuff is usually not as good or completely different.
I agree Wagoneer is a stupid name, but I think Mitsubishi Pajero is worse, "Pajero" meaning "Wanker" in chilean spanish.
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Amazon Fire TV built-in
okay, DAFUQ?
EDIT: ohh... its likely for your kid and not for the driver.
Not as ugly as a Rivian
Or Cybertruck 😂
The suv looks fine
The truck looks a bit wonky
It doesn’t even look “big” or “tough”. It looks obese.
I live in a fairly high-income area, and almost everyone drives new cars. I've noticed a trend that all new cars have stretched out longer, and it really bothers me. It's just a very ugly trend.
Ugh... looks like rivian and range rover made an ugly baby.
How long until they start making these things the same size as buses? These vehicles getting bigger and bigger is sure gonna help ease traffic, and absolutely totally not occupy more space on the road for no good reason... ^^/s^^
Have you seen the Hummer EV? 9,000 lbs fully loaded.
It’s close to a type A school bus which starts at ~10K lbs.
The smallest school bus is known as a Type A. It carries only 10 passengers and comes in at the lower end of 10,000 pounds. Type B buses can seat up to 24 people but are the same standard size as Type A. This leads them to weigh around the same as Type A buses
Oh hell no, that's heavy AF. I would not want to get hit by that thing!
heavy with no crumple zones like a model T while going at modern speeds.
Seen em on the road around me. They're a throwback to the original jeep wagoneer, but yeah... Fuck how big and goofy these stupid things look.
$61k for 16mpg city?????? What the fuck?
I definitely feel they're trying too hard to be Range Rover.....
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