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Kim Dotcom to be extradited to the US (www.bbc.com)

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Fireship said this guy only costed Hollywood like 500m in "potential revenue" over the course of Megaupload's existence which is pretty low compared to the accusations hurled at piratebay which is still active to this day.

The rumor is the FBI only went after him when he tried to setup Mega for music (essentially what Spotify does right now) with a guaranteed 90% profit split for artists. So not even because Mega was popular for pirated content, but because he was super close to imploding the poor (and I think only 3) multibillion dollar record labels.

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 5 points 2 months ago

We really need a product like that for film actually.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 months ago

Maybe I'm just completely ignorant of law, but how/why can he be extradited to a foreign country in this manner? Did he previously reside in and operate out of the US?

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 31 points 2 months ago

He made US companies lose money, while making money himself. Thats all they need.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 25 points 2 months ago

Not even that, the service he operated might have been used such that US companies might have missed out on potential revenue.

That's it.

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 5 points 2 months ago

Ironically, companies made revenue using megaupload in the past.

I recall getting first party .exes from megaupload prior to the huge Google Cloud push.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 29 points 2 months ago

NZ has an extradition treaty with the the US.

Apparently potential copyright infringement is extradition worthy

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Many countries have extradition agreements.

Y’know those spam calls you get? Where they try to say they are the government? The reason they get away with that is that your country doesn’t have an extradition agreement with their country.

That’s a drastic oversimplification but it’s still true

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Nope. The US just has that much influence.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We essentially control Australia, it's fucking weird.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You know countries with extradition agreements can request extraditions in the other direction, as well?

If an american does a crime in Australia, but makes it back to the states, Australias government can also go "yeah so uuuh that guy killed a dude over here, gonna need him back for trial".

It's what makes it less likely people will just do crime all over other countries and then return home to escape punishment.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

So if I seed a bunch of Australian media to a ratio of 10,000, Uncle Sam can ship me off to Australia to be tried for crimes where my Constitutional rights don't apply?

Cool.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Technically yes.

But I wasn't commenting on whether this given situation, or whether modern copyright laws, are reasonable.

In this case the extradition is extending the reach of shitty laws, but that is not an arguement against extraditions being a thing.

They are a good thing. They allow for laws to reach across borders, because otherwise a state of anarchy would exist between countries, where all crime would be fair game, as long as you only victimized foreigners. That would be extremely fucked.

It's why contries like Russia and India have online scam industries, because there exists no international agreement that would enforce some consequences for robbing people on the other side of the world.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

In this case the extradition is extending the reach of shitty laws, but that is not an arguement against extraditions being a thing.

Of course it is. It's why Germany doesn't extradite citizens: You're prosecuted in Germany, instead. Exception are other EU countries which are assumed to have sane laws, also, you have recourse to the ECHR while the US has plenty of people gleefully arguing that punishments can be cruel or unusual, they just can't be both at the same time.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Right I was speaking about more than just extradition. https://youtu.be/ZOV8UeLkoAw

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Say what you will about ole Kim, but I spent a good chunk of time sailing the seven seas with his assistance.

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

But why is his name Dotcom.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

He changed it, used to be USENET

[-] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Because he’s weird and we are legally allowed to change our names

[-] LemmyRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

If you speak Spanish, check this video: https://youtu.be/oUQ7_PK_pPw

[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Because he changed it.

[-] PappyWappy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Dude was once the top MW2 player in the world

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Unsure if MechWarrior or Modern Warfare....

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

Techbros will deadname you but will change their name to Kim Dotcom

[-] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago

Has Kim been transphobic? Or is this just you generally hating techbros (not that I'd really consider him a techbro tbh)

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 5 points 2 months ago

Me either.

When I think of techbros I think venture capital, no ethics, and will sell out anyone if the price is right.

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago

Man I remember when MU went down. I was halfway through a rewatch of Gundam Wing - bad luck aside lol I couldn’t believe it was happening.

[-] hoxbug@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I was at a lan party having a break from the gaming and decided to browse a little bit, the news was blowing up about it.

[-] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

The NWO are hard working people..

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

NWO? Brother???

Voodoo Child starts playing

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They meant NWA. What the relevance is, I don't know, but they aren't wrong.

[-] nebulaone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

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crazy motherfucker named Ice Cube

from a gang called n-- with attitude"

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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