I guess it makes sense, seeing as they've perfected the desktop experience.
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Epic about to introduce absolutely pieces of shit crappy third party launchers even on mobile.
Jesus, I was downloading and installing packages earlier for unreal 5.4 and it basically bricks my pc until the install is finished. Infuriating.
I hate Epic and won't buy any of their games but I respect that they've taken Apple, Google, and Samsung to the cleaners over this shit.
But they didn't. Let's look at the facts:
- There are alternative stores on Android since forever.
- From 1, Opening a secondary store on Android was always an option.
- 30% they claim is abusive is the industry standard, i.e. no one is taking advantage of their monopoly to enforce that, because even in markets without a monopoly that's the amount charged.
- Epic lost their lawsuit against Apple, which was the only company he was suing that actually enforced a monopoly in their platform.
- Secondary stores are allowed on Apple in the EU as a result of DMA which has nothing to do with Epic.
- From 5, Opening a secondary store on Apple is now an option regardless of what Epic did.
So you have one company that sued two others to be able to launch their store there, one of the companies wasn't preventing them from doing so, and they lost their lawsuit against the other one. Completely unrelated to that, the EU forced that second company to allow third-party stores. Conclusion, Epic's lawsuit has nothing to do with this announcement.
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Nothing prevented Epic from opening their own Appstore on Android. Heck, Amazon runs their own you can load on your Android phone if you want.
None of that means Google wasn't exploiting anticompetitive measures to ensure everyone has to pay their exorbitant 30% tax in their app store. At least, that's what the State of California determined when Epic took them to court.
I'm pointing out that what the article is showing (Epic opening their own app store) was always an option for them. The court ruling on Google's app store didn't enable that. It was always an option. This isn't true on the Apple side, though. A non-Apple app store on iOS would be a significant change.
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The state of California also determined that 30% tax was okay for Apple to charge, so they're not very objective with their determinations.
One was a jury trial and the other wasn't. Google had plenty of records of their internal communications but Apple had a different practice. This article by The Verge does a decent job at highlighting the differences.
You mean the same fee every store under the sun charges? Epic is the only one that doesn't, and they pretty much just do it for marketing.
They are not the good guys. They're Elon Musk before he took the mask off, though it slips through now and then.
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Yeah. I've had Amazon's for a very long time. There was never anything preventing epic from making their own store. Epic was trying to make Google play store host the download for the epic game store.
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The only good thing came out of Fortnite is the money to fund those lawsuits.
I have well over 300 games on Epic Games Store. I have played zero. I don't know why I keep getting the free games every week, but Steam is where I keep buying. Eventually, I'll play something on there.
I'm the same way but use heroic games launcher even on windows if that is what you run. Its lite on CPU and you have access to epic gog and epic. if you like the games you played then by them on steam then.
Heroic works great on my steamdeck, too. How I've played several games from gog or free epic games on it.
I rigged up origin on the SD before there was an easier implementation to do it, though. That was like a 94 step nightmare, but Assasins Creed Black Flag runs great.
I'm counting on Linux support becoming better. Although I guess Heroic Games Launcher is almost there already.
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Fuck epic
Store exclusives are coming to mobile :/
Cue the space man gun meme.
It always was store exclusives.
As a gamer for over 40 years, I don't play games on my phone. I find it boring, monotonous, and repetitive, along with the ads, gatcha mechanics, and whatever trash they're pushing. If I want to play a game, I'll use my desktop or Switch.
I play shattered dungeon.
Game boy emulators.
TIC-80 and PICO8 games.
Native android Final Fantasy VI.
There are some good options for phone gaming.
Yeah, what we really needed in this world was Epic Games doing anything ever.
Has this not been a thing for a while? What app do I have on my phone?
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TLDR: you can get it from the url http://epic.download
Looks like it only has Fortnite, Fall Guys and Rocket League on there for now
I don't remember the last time i played a game on my phone tbh
Me either but it's an ENORMOUS and very profitable industry.
Apple Made More Money on Games Than Xbox, Sony, Nintendo and Activision Combined in 2019
That's JUST Apple and JUST mobile games.
The bastards actually built what looks to be a nice platform. I can’t wait to install a different launcher for every app on my phone!
Better to have competition than relying on the same launcher for every app. Monopolies are convinient but actually really bad for you.
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Only for EU iPhones, right?
Yup. Worldwide on Android but only EU on iPhone.
Maybe the EU will eventually extend these rules to the iPad. I’ve already tried installing from the epic website and the process is not that bad.
Oh nice, Fall Guys comes to mobile.
Not even joking, if they honor their cut rates for Unreal Engine from the PC Store this will be very big.
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