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[-] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 110 points 2 months ago

E-Mails are evidence. A call isn't. I always like to e-mail.

[-] Fribbtastic@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

I totally agree. I had it a few times in which someone calls me, rips me out of my thoughs, we discuss something, hang up and I have nothing retained from what we talked about. Or, even better, someone says something on a call and I do that and then they never said anything about that.

Even worse, I can't listen to the conversation in 1-2 weeks because that is the time I could actually work on it and remember every detail that we talked about.

Now I am strictly going with emails. Sure they can call me and we talk about the feasibility or discuss possible solutions but any request for implementation has to happen either over an email of which I then create a ticket/issue or they create one directly themselves.

That way I can prove that what I implemented was based on what was requested and if that was wrong then the request wasn't clear enough.

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[-] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Send the email, then call me to say "hey I sent you an email that I really need you to read and respond to urgently, I'll let you go so you can focus while reading, talk later"

For one of my 3 jobs, I don't have regular work hours, I'm employed just 5 hours a week, on call, for IT support for a little non for profit.

My contract, my email signature, my numerous discussions with the team all state "if you require a response within the same business day, please phone me to alert me to the issue"

I check my email once a day, I don't have time to be checking it several times a day when I'm only paid for 5 hours work, I need to conserve those hours for maintenance and support I'm not about wasting anybody's time.

So if someone happens to email me after I've already checked my inbox for that day, I won't see it until tomorrow. Hence, phone me, I want to work, I just need a way to alert myself that work is available for me, a text message will also suffice.

I realise this is asking someone to change the way they operate to make my job easier. But the number of times I check my email at 1pm, and there's zero tickets, so I turn off my computer because I'm not going to sit and watch an empty inbox for my free time.

Then the next day I check my email and I have 20 emails all from the same person from about 3-5pm all saying "hey I have an issue" "hey following up this is kind of urgent" "hey, are you even checking your emails?"...no obviously I'm not, it would have saved you so much effort to send 1 text after 1 email as I requested than to send 20 emails, and I would have actually gotten the text in time.

Also half the time the issue needs to be fixed with a phone call anyway because it's something simple like "Microsoft Word is missing"... because the program was unpinned from the taskbar and the staff member just needs help remembering the start menu exists. Most of my support resolutions are the equivalent of describing the buttons on the TV remote to your grandmother over the phone. (lots of older, less tech literate folk working in NFP sector)

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[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

There's a reason debt collectors refuse to deal via email.

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[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 108 points 2 months ago

I'd rather go and see them in person than have to call them...

[-] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

I must be getting old, because I’m starting to prefer phone calls. I don’t want to spend 10 minutes teaching your goddamn chat bot how to understand my problem. I just want to tell another human being so it becomes their problem to fix it.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago

Annoying thing is the phone system they use to divert your call. It feels almost intentional to get us not to speak to a representative.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago
[-] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Had that experience with Comcast about 2 weeks ago. Took 15 minutes and three attempts to get to a representative. The chat bot couldn’t figure out what I meant when I said I needed my cable buried again. On a side note it’s been 2 weeks and they still haven’t sent anyone out to bury it again 🤦‍♂️

[-] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

They're too busy charging people for going over the monthly cap.

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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

Calling someone out of the blue is rude nowadays, because mainly we only get spam calls.

Texts and emails are better, and if you just want to talk for a while, schedule it with a text.

Hey, call me when you can tonight, nothing urgent.

This is the new Way.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

We've come full circle back to pagers.

I'm sure I've still got mine in a drawer somewhere

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[-] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

I haven't pieced out why yet but I have recently realized that phone calls are a huge anxiety trigger for me.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

Because human brains aren't supposed to be able to do emotional and mental parkour like completely redirecting our focus on a new topic in under a second without prior warning.

For me personally, if it's a call I expect, it drops the anxiety levels by considerable amount. Even better, if I can prepare a plan/scenario for the call, and take notes during it.

Of course, if it's someone from my close family or friends, that also helps. But unexpected calls from unknown numbers (or known, but from like work or distant acquaintances) freak me out.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

I can handle phonecalls from friends and family. Anyone else I just won't pick up. Screw you buddy.

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[-] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

For me, I think it's the fact that I have to prepare for both a social interaction and a monologue depending on whether they answer or not. As someone with mild social anxiety, the uncertainty and the fact that I am unequivocally initiating the interaction messes with a lot of the ways I would cope with joining a normal social interaction and throws me off my game

[-] goldenoreo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

I got a lot better at phone calls when I worked on trauma therapy. I've always had issues asserting myself and phone calls are sort of a form of saying "hey!! Quit what you're doing and pay attention to me because I have something important!" which isn't something I was used to doing or asking for nor did I even think anything I did was important

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[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

On the other hand, why the fuck are you calling me?!? There better be a huge goddamn problem that you can't communicate through text.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

If you’re getting a call, the “huge goddamn problem” better be “time”.

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[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

I keep running into this issue where I want to e-mail the support team of a product and their options are like

FAQ, Phone number, forum, "ai" "assistant

like please god no just let me submit a ticket please please please

[-] pacmondo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

Then you call the phone number and its a "helpful" voice chat bot you have to tell your problem to and hope it directs you to the right directory in their convoluted phone tree

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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

They don’t give an email option, as then it would instantly become a ticket and they have to work on it. They prefer you gettig frustrated with the bot or the phone menu, and givng up

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[-] didnt1able@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago

This is me, I feel like calling is detrimental because I can't fucking understand what people are saying on the phone, presumably they can't understand me. Everything is initially misscomunicated and needs to be restated like 2-3 times. Email just makes more sense and if it's a bunch of things that need to be communicated precisely. Also having things in written for like an email is always good because it can be later referenced incase things become some he said she said.

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Until you get a message that says just "server is not working". Which one? Not working how? Who the hell are you, name@gmail.com?

How do you even respond to that? Unless you want to sound like an ashole, and spend an hour exchanging messages, you have to call back. I hate it so much!

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

Do you write long emails? If you are like me, you write clear, detailed emails that nobody reads.

In business at least, most people treat emails like text messages. If they are too long, their level of comprehension goes down.

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[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 23 points 2 months ago

Y’all are weirdos. It’s just a fucking call. Take it, ask the person to slow down. It’s so quick. The amount of typing needed to replaced it is ridiculous.

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I think this kind of problem is more exhibited in millennials who grew up on online chat and message boards. For younger Gen Zs who basically live on Discord, there's less apprehension about calling someone. Face-to-face communication is another story for those Gen Zs, though.

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[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I'm not weird. You're weird.

[-] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Haha agreed. You don't have to go back and forth over several hours or days to sort an issue out when you call. You can just hash it all out over the phone in a fraction of the time, and be on your way.

Oh well, to each their own.

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[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

They're not going to answer anyway.

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Exactly, no-one picks up the phone anymore.

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[-] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago

Go to them in person. 😈

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Don't call me. The reason I take forever to get shit done is the 6 hours a day in unnecessary phone calls and meetings. You want shit done then stfu and let me work.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

“Just wanted to make sure you didn’t forget your tasks”

[-] meliaesc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

"Did you get that email I just sent?"

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Phone calls? With your voice? But nobody even answers the phone anymore. Just send it to voicemail like a reasonable person. Quit being a psychopath!

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 2 months ago

DM: got a minute for a voice call?

only a barbarian rings unannounced.

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[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

Just send 'em a stern email. That'll teach 'em.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Working in IT, mainly with older neurotypicals, unfortunately, calling, is sometimes the only way to get things done.

I've emailed, and even left voicemails for people that go completely unanswered for weeks. When I finally get lucky and get them on the line, the issue gets fixed in minutes.

I appreciate when people actually engage through text. Often, after an unsuccessful call (getting voicemail or whatever), I'll follow it up with an email. It's getting to be more common, but not universal yet, that the emails get a reply within hours.

There's still a lot of "old guard" in business, and I can usually tell by someones name and position, whether they're going to be a phone call only user, or someone who will reply to emails.

VP Edward Jones? Probably need to call that guy.

Junior data entry person Emily Smith? Email. 100%.

Everyone else lies somewhere in-between.

If I email someone and ask for a date and time for a call to look at an issue and they reply but don't give me one, saying something to the effect of "just connect as soon as you can", I'll literally forego calling, connect to their system and pop up a chat so we can talk.

I take hints.

I also prefer text over talking. Calling someone (or getting a call from someone) used to give me anxiety. After many years working in IT support, making/taking a phone call barely even registers now. I don't like it, but I don't have to. RFC 1925, rule #1. It has to work.

Anything that helps me get from "thing is broken" to "thing is fixed" is fine by me. I just want your ticket off my board.

[-] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

I say calls are fine if significant dialogue is required or the matter requires immediate response, but i would preferably get a text first something like "can i call you now/at time x/whatever". If during the call there is any exact information i need to remember(dates,numbers,addresses,etc) i would like that information after the fact so i can reference after the cat and save a lot of anxiety over wether i remembered the thing right.

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