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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 180 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Macron was bailed out by cooperation from the left-wing, and now he wants to play fuckwad games. How predictable. I hope they ream his ass out for trying this.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This deserves a riot. Hopefully the public sets him straight. I wish our own public would flip cars over politicians' lies and anti-citizen rulings.

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[–] Antmz22@lemm.ee 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

"why don't leftists just cooperate with liberals and try to guide them left"

Well, this is why, most liberals (within power, it's the opposite in the populace) aren't "good hearted but misinformed and able to be moved left". It has been tried countless times and all that ever happens is they betray the left and try to push their right wing agendas.

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[–] sukotai@lemmy.world 177 points 2 months ago (4 children)

bullshit : i'm french. there is NO chaos at all. Just political entertainement as usual.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I'm amazed that "chaos" there in France is more like "normal". I remember some riots that happened couple of years ago and one commenter said France might verge into collapsing. I thought to myself that those who think that are not aware how France works, and rioting is a tradition since the French Revolution.

[–] sukotai@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

riots may happen in france, but for what is mention in the post, there is absolutely no riot, no chaos or anything else. It's just a political event without consequence.

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[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not even a crumb of chaos? A morsel of mischief? Perhaps a scrap of sabotage?

[–] Grabthar@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not so much as a shred of shenanigans.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Un peu de pagaille? Quelque chose de chienlit?

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 76 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I know fuck all about French politics, but it seems strange that he doesn't just appoint the candidate from the left. It sounds like it's a fucked up non-functional situation, so he should just let them try to do the impossible and then fail. He's probably worried that she might actually succeed and is holding out hope for some way to cobble together something as close as possible to the centrist coalition that shit the bed in the first place.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. His excuse rings a little hollow. If there would be a no confidence vote, so be it. Give the left their PM, and if they get thrown out, then move forward with your compromise candidate.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If the candidate from the largest coalition can't survive a no confidence vote then I don't see how any other candidate would.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's amazing all the credit we gave him for that snap election decision is being completely erased.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Well it's not like he deserved any of that credit in the first place 🤷

[–] vanontom@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

I thought people credited Macron with the error and poor timing of the election. But credited the French voters with saving the election (against the far right and polling, quickly uniting with a practical strategy).

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Hey! It's the part where the "centrists" betray the left and cede power to the facists! Damn. You'd think someone would write a new script or something.

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[–] servobobo@feddit.nl 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He's going to make a deal with the nazis, isn't he.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Time to break out a uniquely French solution?

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 23 points 2 months ago

The president had hoped consultations would break the political deadlock caused by the election that left the Assemblée Nationale divided into three roughly equal blocks – left, centre and far right – none of which has a majority of seats.

So, in parliamentary systems -- which, for these purposes, France is similar to -- typically this is dealt with via multiple factions making concessions to each other and forming a coalition. Is that an option?

kagis

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/09/french-government-risks-no-confidence-motion-as-leaders-rule-out-coalitions

France’s aversion to coalitions means any new government risks early collapse

In France, however, political leaders from left and right have lined up to rule out a coalition government after Sunday’s snap election produced a parliament of three roughly equal blocs – none with a majority, and all with wildly differing platforms.

Well.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a fucking shit stain...

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a fucking trace de pneu

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

So call a second election. The people will solve the impasse. Either a majority emerges or eventually the parties, exhausted by campaigning, will learn to compromise and make a coalition. Democracy will find a way.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (12 children)

will learn to compromise and make a coalition

Lol. You're new to French politics?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

French Unity is when deGaulle has you dragged out back and shot for disagreeing.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Only in the colonies, so that was allowed!

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[–] Rekhyt@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The parties aren't the problem. Macron holds the presidency and appoints the PM. The largest (coalition) party is giving him a candidate AFTER compromises and he's refusing STILL because he only wants a PM from his own party, who came in second (edit: not third, my bad, they did beat National Rally. They did come in third in the first round of voting though).

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

the parties, exhausted by campaigning, will learn to compromise and make a coalition

Good luck with that.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Not possible, there's a one year delay.

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[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Chaos in France"

Just... Can these people exercise any restraint when it comes to sensationalist headlines?

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