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[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 68 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

‘Even gods can be flawed’ is among the least racist statements I’ve ever heard. The litmus test of mad libbing, gods->[race] doesn’t seem racist either. As an aside, it’s funny to note that the chillest person in the entirety of their universe, short of dog pope, is an ideological anarchist.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 26 points 2 months ago

As an aside, it’s funny to note that the chillest person in the entirety of their universe, short of dog pope, is an ideological anarchist.

The chillest dude just wants to boil and eat crab.

[-] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 8 points 2 months ago

Didn't he rob a woman?

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 2 months ago

Him and Patches both kinda dismiss the theft as protecting Rya from her own ignorance. And she is literally also trying to recruit people to prove they are strong so they can be fed to a giant snake, so... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[-] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I never got the impression that big boggy was being altruistic, just opportunistic.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 2 months ago

Well what would YOU do if some religious weirdo walked up to you in your backyard while you BBQ'd and tried to recruit you to their snake cult and also refused to try your cooking?

[-] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

What the hell is wrong with you. You trying to start something? Piss off. Before I crack you in 'alf.

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

And if you don't choose the right dialogue options he tries to fight to the death instead lol

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 28 points 2 months ago

Literally nothing to do with race... The gods are not perfect; they are no better than ordinary humans. That was the flaw he saw. Not sure what his fix is meant to be, though. Removing the Gods' emotions?

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

To not worship them maybe?

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Gods aren't a race, Anon.

[-] BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago

Bro's whole world was shattered when he discovered Marika is trans

[-] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't they be genderfluid, not trans?

[-] BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

You're right, my bad

[+] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com -12 points 2 months ago

that's still transgender

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

No it's not. Transgender and genderfluid identities are different.

[-] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So a tricky thing with LGBT words is they seem to vary around specificity.

Like people can say gay to mean gay men, gay people, or any kind of queer.

Similarly transgender can mean a gender identity not matching your biological sex, which includes genderfluid; or it can mean specifically a binary trans man/woman.

These aren't different valid opinions about the label. They are literally just different definitions for the words that depend on context. The words mean all of those things but usually only one in each context.

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Transgender and genderfluid identities are different.

Hold up. No, that's not correct. I am trans myself, and while I'm assuming it's not your intent to do so but this is walking in to some toxic gatekeeping that is common in some communities. Not tying to call you out, but respectfully and politely, it's a pretty big party foul to say a group is or isn't trans.

"Trans" is an umbrella term in which transgender, transexual, non-binary, generfluid, demi boy/girl and Intersex people all fit under. None of these things are mutually exclusive. And conversely, it's not a requirement either. Many intersex, fluid and non-binary people do not consider themselves trans, and that is 100% their right, but many do as well.

It's entirely an individuals choice, and saying X isn't "trans" only leads to exclusion and intercommunity bigotry.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

I'd prefer to let the nonbinary and gender non-conforming folks speak for themselves, and a majority of them do not consider themselves trans. I understand your concerns about potential transmed arguments that could be derived from this, but it's a part of nb erasure that must be combated

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

and a majority of them do not consider themselves trans

And in my experience it's the opposite. But either way we are going in to anecdotal territory which isn't helpful. What's important that we agree on is that non binary folk absolutely have the right to decide for themselves either way.

Concerns about erasure is valid, but the language matters as not to be exclusionary. There is value in saying NB, intersex and fluid are distinct identities, but not in saying they are mutually exclusive from or inherently "not trans".

[-] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

i mean, i doubt many genderfluid people were assigned genderfluid at birth, so they aren't really cis. whether or not individual genderfluid people choose to identify as transgender is their thing, but i think genderfluid broadly fits under the transgender umbrella. or are you saying genderfluid people are cis?

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

What the fuck kind of logic is that? Do you think that people are only capable of being cis or trans? There are several gender non-conforming identities, that does not make them trans.

[-] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago

i mean, what other categories are there besides cis and trans? either you identify as the gender you were assigned at birth or you dont.

[-] EightLeggedFreak@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Something something non-binary

[-] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

yea my point is that nonbinary is a subcategory of trans. at least in my eyes. im not sure how else someone would categorize it, but if anyone has other ideas id love to hear them.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Nonbinary is nonbinary. There's certainly a lot of overlap between nonbinary people and trans people, but they aren't the same.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

The prefix trans- means to go to the other side. If you aren't going to the opposite side, you aren't trans. There are many other identities that don't totally move to the opposite side, or even subvert the binary entirely.

[-] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

that means only 100% MtF or FtM people are trans? interesting take.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

What does 100% mean? You identify as male, female, or other. If it's other then it's not trans, it's whatever you identify as. If it's opposite of what you're assigned at birth it is.

[-] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

so someone identifying as a demiboy who was afab isn't trans?

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

My understanding is that is identifying as male, right? No one identifies with all of the characteristics of whatever gender they are part of. If you identify yourself as a man and are afab then that'd be trans. It doesn't matter how strongly you identify as a man.

I'm not sure why your 100% thing is there except to try to wiggle out of being wrong. No one is 100% of a gender, because you literally can't be a perfect archetype of a gender.

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I don't know if it's your intent or you don't know, but this is transmedicalism and it's gatekeeping that is used as intercommunity bigotry. Trans is an umbrella term that holds transsexuals, transgender, non-binary, Demi, fluid and intersex people under. We can celebrate and acknowledge the distinctions, but anyone who doesnt feel cis is absolutely welcome to the trans label. When some non binary people understand themselves, many see this as a transition from how they identified before and that is absolutely 100% valid.

Please do not tell anyone they are or are not trans. That is not your choice to make and it belongs to every single individual person to say for themselves.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I literally said the term. They are gender non-conforming. Don't impose your beliefs on people that don't want to be identified the way you think they should.

[-] bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How does being gender non-conforming exclude being cis or trans?

[-] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 months ago

im not forcing anyone to identify as transgender.

[-] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Fair enough

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm sorry Goldmask, you're a real G but the need for puppet gush is strong

[-] finickydesert@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Reincarnates into black wukong

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

"Dies".

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