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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

No, millennials with rich parents will inherit the Earth.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Phone calls are a trap. Little good comes from answering them.

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 86 points 4 days ago

My coworker spent 30 minutes trying to find another way to contact a vendor after I told her the easiest way to order the thing she needed was just to call and it would take 2 minutes. I hate calling too, but that's just dumb. Or maybe I just like efficiency more than I hate the phone.

[-] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago

At work at least I have a script I can follow. I am The Role.

But please don't make me order a pizza after work hours

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 41 points 4 days ago

Literally everything I learned in my high school careers class was useless because the world changed so much because of the internet getting more and more mainstream. Was told to keep calling and asking about applications; nobody actually answers the phone. Was told to collect and fill out applications in person; everyone moved to online-only applications. Was told to dress like I'm going to church for interviews; most interviews I've had were group interviews and 90% of the other applicants just wore jeans and t-shirts. Was taught to meet the higher ups so they would get to know me; the higher ups aren't even on site except maybe once in a blue moon because something went wrong.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 22 points 4 days ago

Make something go wrong, then

[-] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Force the target to come to you. Brilliant.

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[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 54 points 4 days ago

I'm a millennial. I'm nearly 41. I'm the director of department.

I am also a fun little trash goblin on the weekends.

We can be competent at work and fun friendly people.

I find all this generational ontology very tiring nowadays

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Always has been, stupid way to needlessly divide people

[-] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago

Thats exactly what a boomer would say

/s

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[-] SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 4 days ago

It’s not so much that I can’t make phone calls, as much as I don’t want to. 75% of the time you just end up playing phone tag, and I’d rather just email so they can reply at their convenience and there’s no question about who said what

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 days ago

Along with the fact that any more when you HAVE to call, it's going to be dealing with a bullshit auto answering system that leads you in circles and intentionally misunderstands you.

[-] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

This is the problem.

I needed a car battery the other day and just wanted to know if it was in stock because it's a little uncommon. I went online, it said they did, went to the store, they didn't, told me to call and verify because online updates overnight.

I called 4 different stores, nobody answered the first 3, 4th one rang forever, then an auto answering thing kept me for 5 minutes and when no option helped me it said "try again later, goodbye."

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[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah I can do this. And am not even 30 yet.

Nope.
It would probably help if phone calls still really existed as a method of getting stuff done but the amount of places not bothering / having automated / foreign staff for their call centers makes them basically pointless and a completely different skill set compared to old school charisma and phone etiquette.

Patience and stubbornness to deal with the bullshit and still keep the effort applied will win.

Not some skill that feels nostalgic and forgotten like phone calls or cursive will save you from the onslaught of time.

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

You want something done? You march into someone's office. And when I say march, I mean march.

[-] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 2 points 2 days ago

It actually (eventually) did work for me when a dealer sold me a car with a blown engine. Had to threaten legal action, but it started with a phone call, then a march to the office.

[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

"Based." Did I say that right, or was it cringe?

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

We had a new Engineer start, fresh out of college, and he was terrified to call people at first. Now, only a few months later, he much prefers it as a more effective means of communicating.

[-] Benaaasaaas@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

The youngest millennials are turning 30, what you have there is a gen Z engineer.

[-] Threeme2189@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

So an Engen-Z-er?

I'll show myself out

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[-] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago

My problem is, if I call someone and they lie to me I'm the one who gets fucked, if I send an email they get fucked if they lie.

[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago
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[-] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

I had a job where I made 20+ calls per day. I worked there for almost 2 years, and hated it just as much the day i quit as the day i started. They weren't even particularly difficult calls, just processing orders and looking up part numbers.

That being said now I sit in zoom meetings which don't seem that different but I find them 100x less stressful.

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[-] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 days ago

Have you seen what they’re leaving us? No thanks.

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 days ago

I'm a millennial and I'm fine at work with eye contact and whatnot (it's uncomfortable, but I'm a manager now and do it regularly), but I detest phone calls. I don't understand why, I'm fine going in to an institution to get stuff done, but the thought of calling someone is super intimidating for some reason. And I grew up with a landline at home and didn't get a cell phone (i.e. no SMS) until I went to college. So it's not like I was conditioned to avoid calls, I just grew to hate them for some reason.

That said, when I do call, I generally get things done much more quickly, so it's completely irrational. Yet here we are. I have to give myself a small pep talk before pressing the call button.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago

Do you feel like it's hard to understand people who are talking clearly when you're on the phone? I do.

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[-] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king

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[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

I'm on the youngest side of the millennials, when do I inherit, since I often like to phone in, as these days if you want something fixed quick, you're better off calling (in Australia at least).

Much better waiting on hold for 10 mins than who knows how many business days before the customer service inevitably copy pastes something from the FAQ that doesn't resolve your problem.

Also, I like to call friends, on the phone. And use SMS 0_0

Again, when can I get my inheritance, thanks haha

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[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Chiming to say I am also a millennial that doesn't break down over phone calls, shaking hands, and talking to strangers, even when the socialization is important to my livelihood

[-] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't break down while interacting, but I certainly break down when I get home. Yay masking.

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[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 3 days ago
[-] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Xennials definitely. Not biased or anything. ‘82 represent.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 3 days ago

'78 here. Old enough to have seen ghostbusters at the cinema and used a rotary phone, young enough to have ridden the digital wave. I got powers they cannot even conceive

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[-] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

Im a millennial and my restaurant doesn't have a phone AMA

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

phone calls

Even Boomers know not to answer their phones anymore

[-] gencha@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago

In boomer times, phone calls were expensive and were transferred over landlines. It had an impact on the quality of the conversation.

Today people call you with 1% battery while at the register of the supermarket and instantly launch into a monologue about how they know it's not a good time to call, and they might even cut off any moment, and they know you're usually busy at 10am on a work day, but they really need to know if they can call you "later" to discuss something really important. And before you can tell them anything, they cut off. At least it's over!

10 minutes later they call you from their car and it takes them a couple of minutes to get the audio working so they can repeat everything they said earlier. It's what you have to do if a call was cut off! Then they drive into a tunnel.

Dealing with this shit is a dark art fr

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[-] finickydesert@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 days ago

We already do now if they learn the dark art of not giving random people their entire lifesavings to a Nigerian prince via text....

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