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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 128 points 3 weeks ago

I've never believed in astrology, but we Scorpios are naturally skeptical.

[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 weeks ago

You're a Scorpio? No wonder I couldn't trust you. Sagittariuses and Scorpios are natural enemies. Like Sagittariuses and Cancers. Or Sagittariuses and other Sagittariuses. Dammit Sagittarius! You ruined astrology!!

[-] Saber_is_dead@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

You Sagittariuses sure are a contentious people!

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[-] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 101 points 3 weeks ago

Astrology is so stupid! That's why I only practice geomancy, the true divination art.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago

Geomancy is just applied numerology.

[-] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 34 points 3 weeks ago

And physics is just applied maths. I feel like the number lobby is trying to sell us more numbers.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's how we'll eventually run out of numbers. And then what? Sell some imaginary ones?

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

Hey kid, wanna buy a square root of minus one? It fucks you uppppp

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

It really does

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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think that's another name for earthbending

[-] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 8 points 3 weeks ago

I think it might be closer to applied Sacred Geometry.

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[-] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 70 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder what kind of person calls themselves a "world class expert" in astrology.

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 57 points 3 weeks ago

Probably exactly the kind you'd expect.

[-] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

The stars of the profession?

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

People you shouldn't trust.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago

You know, I'm something of a galaxy-class expert astrologist myself.

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 3 weeks ago

A woman predicted the exact date Biden would step down a few weeks before it happened. She claims to be a world class astrologist. People sort of viewed this as a wow moment. Completely ignoring the fact that it's been talked about that he might not re run if he won in 2020 (which I think was actually a misquote, but ultimately irrelevant for this discussion). There had been a lot of talk and push for him to step down, especially in the month or so prior to it happening. That someone sort of recognized all this but claimed the stars gave them the exact date is such an obvious Occam's razor moment lol but people really did believe she was a master level astrologer.

[-] bravesirrbn@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Survivorship bias? Hundreds of other "astrologists" probably tried predicting it too but guessed wrong

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[-] ryry1985@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you very much. This sort of thing needs to be sourced.

[-] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 47 points 3 weeks ago

Your allowed to say "fucked" on the internet

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

"B******" however is strictly forbidden.

[-] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Bananas?

Boufles

Boredom?

Bonking?

Between?

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Does "fucked off" mean "pissed off" in some vernacular? Not sure I've seen/heard that before.

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[-] SleepyWheel@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder if there is some benefit from the clients interpretation of the reading, even though the reading itself is nonsense. In the same way someone can flip a coin to help you make a decision, and you realise from your gut reaction what you actually wanted to do all along, but weren't consciously aware of

[-] tabris@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

I used to work in a shop that could easily be described as "New Age" and it has a tarot reader there. Having looked at the history of tarot but being a complete sceptic, I asked for a reading one time to see for myself how they go.

Afterwards I asked her "it's a light therapy session, isn't it?" She responded "mostly."

That's pretty much what it is, cheap, basic therapy to help you sort through your thoughts, and shares some similarities with CBT. I'd still recommend therapy if you need it, but I don't mind people going to a tarot reader if that's what helps them. But I still think the mysticism side of it can be a problem for a variety of reasons.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 13 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that's really all it is. It gets much more questionable and problematic when it's things like people claiming to channel dead loved ones.

[-] tabris@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, 100 percent. There's much healthier ways to deal with that kind of grief.

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[-] dumples@midwest.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

Tarot is also a great way of reflection and introspection by giving external prompts which allow a jumping off point for story creation and reframing. Lot of creative processes recommend this external semi-random prompt because it changes you from your normal thoughts. This allows you to think about what happened or what you want to happen and gives a story and a new perspective. Humans are naturally story tellers and pattern seekers and this taps into that. This reframing is a evidence based therapeutic technique that works.

Also if it makes you feel better in your own head that means it works. Everything is based on our mental state so what is difference

yeah and don't forget the placebo effect

"today's gonna be a good day for you"

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 22 points 3 weeks ago

So, yes, some people go too far into astrology and some people are actual grifters, but a lot of times, I think most of the time, people are just looking for a little fun. Yes, I know a tarot reading is bullshit, but it can be fun to do and it can be enlightening to see how I think it should be interpreted. Sort of like the idea of ink blotch tests, but that's not a great comparison.

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

I really hope this is true because I have met soooo many people in my personal life who seriously believe the position of the stars affects every little facet of your life.

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[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, you can't reason someone out of a belief they weren't reasoned into.

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[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Xbeam@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Here is a clip of James Randi doing the 'individualized' horoscopes for a room full of people. I think this is the experiment mentioned in the image.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dp2Zqk8vHw&pp=ygUVamFtZXMgcmFuZGkgYXN0cm9sb2d5

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 14 points 3 weeks ago

They will interpret these results in the manner that seems best to them:-).

[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Obviously biased. Every astrologer is a world leading expert. That's just a true and correct fact. Where are the error bars? Why not use violin plots? Correct science is what will prove astrology correct. I know that because I'm a Leo. Seriously, astrology is important for weeding out tinder profiles.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Astrology can't define a person, but maybe astronomy can. Astronomers study space objects way more than astrologists. I bet they actually know how those objects affect our moods and shit.

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

"A meteor hit your car. I predict this will have a negative impact on your work life this week."

[-] lgmjon64@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

You'd think they would have seen that coming

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Wait, they all did 5 out of 12? That means you can make statistical predictions with astrology by selecting the opposite of what the astrologer predicts!

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Nobody did better than 5/12. And looking at the average, most didn't even come close to that.

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