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The plan, mentioned in a new 76-page wish list by the Department of Defense’s Joint Special Operations Command, or JSOC, outlines advanced technologies desired for country’s most elite, clandestine military efforts. “Special Operations Forces (SOF) are interested in technologies that can generate convincing online personas for use on social media platforms, social networking sites, and other online content,” the entry reads.

The document specifies that JSOC wants the ability to create online user profiles that “appear to be a unique individual that is recognizable as human but does not exist in the real world,” with each featuring “multiple expressions” and “Government Identification quality photos.”

In addition to still images of faked people, the document notes that “the solution should include facial & background imagery, facial & background video, and audio layers,” and JSOC hopes to be able to generate “selfie video” from these fabricated humans. These videos will feature more than fake people: Each deepfake selfie will come with a matching faked background, “to create a virtual environment undetectable by social media algorithms.”

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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

So they can save money by firing their army of nafo meat puppets?

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 46 points 12 hours ago

Can we have a side internet, for us normal people?

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

That exists it's called tildeverse and gemini

[-] disguised_doge@kbin.earth 1 points 2 hours ago

Unfortunately, if everybody goes there the bots will follow.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago

What's the pros and cons of those?

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Both go back to 90s tech so you lose a lot of functionality. Gemini is mainly text based with links to files. So think pre web text pages at University's but it's cool to read people's pages without all the distractions of images and video. I have read some cool stories on there. Got an awesome cookie recipe as well from a person in Denmark.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 hours ago

The listing notes that special operations troops “will use this capability to gather information from public online forums,” with no further explanation of how these artificial internet users will be used.

Any chance that's the real reason and not just a flimsy excuse? What kind of information would you even need a fake identity to gather from a public forum?

[-] Korkki@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

As if any institution, org or group that has an agenda to push doesn't have battalions of bots guiding the discussion of forums to whichever way they want and not just fake followers and likes. As if people would need permission or would ask for it even if they had to. You just cant have any real sense of the public opinion on the internet, if there ever was such a time.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 24 points 13 hours ago

So they want to automate the use of troll-farms?

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago

Dude I can't even pass a catchpa these day. I still don't know if a e-bike is a scooter, a bike, or a moped.

[-] Serialchemist@ttrpg.network 8 points 12 hours ago

Captcha and I can never agree on what is and isn’t a bus.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago
[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

This would work for a short while as long as the user knows their hardware.

[-] django@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 12 hours ago

They keep showing me strange street features from distant countries and ask me shit like "mark all the crosswalks". And i look at it and think "no idea, what this is, no crosswalk i have ever seen looked like this, so i guess it it is something different".

And then i have to do the next captcha. Sometimes i am caught in captcha hell, where i have to solve captchas until i give up and close the browser.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

There is a short story in here about someone who can't pass a captcha, loses their identity, and has to move on to becoming a fisherman in Norway.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 hours ago

Fisherman in Norway is probably an upgrade for some people lol

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

What sites are still using image captchas and not "Click here if you are not a robot"?

I just realized I don't surf the web randomly anymore, mainly because of crap like that.

[-] django@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 hours ago

When i click them, they oftentimes show me a captcha afterwards, as they apparently don't believe me. I once solved captcha after captcha for like two minutes and then ragequit, finally accepting, that i am a robot.

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago

Dead internet, it will be drowned in bots.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 16 points 13 hours ago
[-] zante@lemmy.wtf 19 points 13 hours ago

Bro I’ve about a dozen I can sell you right now

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Weird how they're doing the thing they accuse others of doing. Almost like it's a confession.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago

Projection is a major problem

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

So we really are going for a dead internet. Nobody is going to want to interact with bots all day online. But maybe that's the point, harder to organize organically on the streets without a presence online.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Telling on themselves a bit given the implication is that they're so far behind every other country who're definitely already doing the same

[-] hightrix@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

More likely, they’ve been doing this for many years and it is basically obsolete, so they are spilling the beans now.

Or not and we really are doomed.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

My first thought was if they're asking for this officially, they've piloted some version of it unofficially.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

definitely

Definitely, given the overwhelming mountain of evidence you’re sitting on 👍 Meanwhile, the US isn’t the largest intelligence/security state in the world by leaps and bounds. It’s just a little-bitty backward country whose military-industrial complex invented the internet.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

We are pathetically behind in the cyber warfare sphere, though. Like at this point it's embarrassing, we don't even have the semblance of security education or standards for digital hardening. it's just fucking awful, and we are being obliterated by chinese/russian/anyone else troll farms and hackers because of it. massive data breaches are a weekly occurrence.

Its just... we've got the NSA, sure, and they are good at what they do. But what they do is not what we need. Right now, you can scatter some USB drives outside any gvmt office here and some poor dumb HR rep or whatever will invariably plug it in to their work desktop, and they'll totally fail to understand why it was bad for them to do that.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

We are pathetically behind in the cyber warfare sphere, though.

Not relative to other countries.

we are being obliterated by chinese/russian/anyone else troll farms

We are not; we are told we are. It’s propaganda coming from our own security state, pointed at us. Why? To manufacture our consent to censorship. They are telling us that other countries are doing to us what they are doing to other countries, and have been since even before the internet existed.

Listen to this complete inversion of reality from Biden: How would it be if the United States were viewed by the rest of the world as interfering with the elections directly of other countries, and everybody knew it?

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

Yeah... this is an example of what I'm talking about. It's the romanticized version of the wild west online right now, and whenever you talk about the need for increased security, you're subjected to a propaganda lecture about the political implications of fucking twitter or something. Everyone is so primed to respond along the party line to the idea of troll farms that the conversation about how they're used outside of influencing our elections never even occurs to people. Most don't even realize it's an issue that could be discussed.

So lets be clear here, while you're absolutely correct about what you're saying, that's not related to what I was saying.

The near constant spear phishing, network intrusion, ransomware, impersonation, false landings, etc. attacks that every government, medical, social and technical system in the country is being constantly subjected to is the issue I am qualified to speak about. It's an area where the US isn't even attempting to fight back, and as beautiful as headline-darling things like stuxnet were, the developers that worked on it haven't figured out how to mitigate ex: the rampant identity theft throttling the country. My favorite new one has been the theft of identity and thence blackmail of recently paroled prisoners, since a bad actor can easily get them returned to prison by just, say, using their credit card at a walmart out-of-state, or applying for public benefits in a different city. This happens all the time and nobody, at all, is talking about it. It's so common I was brought in to write a set of tools that auto-generate the letter informing out-of-state LEO agencies that the person was the victim of identity theft and should not be found in violation of their parole terms, since that was so common it was all their entire staff were spending their time doing.

That's just the one example that has occured to me, if you want more I can go on for very literal hours (just ask my students (who are no doubt quite stick of the topic...)). There's no systems, or even the political or social will to investigate developing systems, that could even begin to address the most basic issues in this realm. That is the problem I was screaming helplessly into the void about.

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Can I still be the one person who makes all the posts on 4chan, prove me wrong?

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