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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Smartphone buyers care more about that thing that they've been begging for, for years? You don't say... And mobile phone manufacturers are again and still going to ignore what people actually want in favor of expensive and non functional vaporware, like they always do?

You don't say!

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 157 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

2010: We want bigger batteries, they give us colorful phones

2015 We want bigger batteries, they give us 1mm thinner phones

2020 We want bigger batteries, they give us 5 cameras

2025 We want bigger batteries, they give us AI

Phones are a great example of the utter failure of capitalism to address what people actually need and want.

[-] Zerthax@reddthat.com 59 points 3 days ago

They also keep taking away features, like removable storage (microSD) and headphone jacks. There's a few phones that have them, but it gets more difficult to find them as time goes on.

[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Create a problem, sell a solution. It's so annoying.
headphone jack -> sell bluetooth headphones
microSD -> sell cloud storage

[-] Zerthax@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

Create a problem, sell a solution

Under the guise of "innovation"

[-] copd@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Late stage capitalism

[-] wick@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Sony Xperia flagship has both. I think it's the only Snapdragon 8g3 phone that does.

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[-] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

*folds phone in half*

That's two batteries for the price of one.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago

More like two batteries for the price of two phones; foldables are still expensive AF

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[-] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 12 points 3 days ago

Steve Jobs proved that consumers don’t actually know what they want until you tell them. And it’s the manufacturers job to tell them what they want and deliver it.

Since Apple doesn’t want a bigger battery that means no one gets a bigger battery.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

jobs was an ass. and smelled like it

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[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago

I would like colourful phones back though, they were so much more fun compared to the sea of black/white/grey + ONE option in the blue-purple spectrum we have today.

Can we get that AND bigger batteries?...bigger colourful batteries even?

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[-] JordanfireStar@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

They're pushing AI so hard but most people just see it as a gimmicky thing. The only people who care are the investors.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

yeah but you can't set inflate your stock value based on hype about battery life.

people forget that these features aren't for users. it's for idiots who invest in ridiculous shit hoping it to be the next big thing.

[-] ef9357@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 days ago

Can we please stop calling LLMs artificial intelligence?

[-] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No. Strictly and technically speaking, LLMs absolutely fall under the category of AI. You’re thinking of AGI, which is a subset of AI, and which LLMs will be a necessary but insufficient component of.

I’m an AI Engineer; I’ve taken to, in my circles, calling AI “Algorithmic Intelligence” rather than “Artificial Intelligence.” It’s far more fitting term for what is happening. But until the Yanns and Ngs and Hintons of the field start calling it that, we’re stuck with it.

[-] ef9357@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago

I like your definition. Algorithmic intelligence fits much better. And thanks for giving me a rabbit hole (AGI) to dive into.

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

Where intelligence in spitting out samples from big data vaguely related to prompt?

[-] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Let's just settle on SI, Schrödiger intelligence.

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[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

Oh wow shocking, people actually cared more about usability than trashy feature? That's unheard of

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Also I want my OS to be an actual OS with root access. I want Linux in particular.

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

I really hope the AI hype dies off

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[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

How about making a phone that's a whole millimeter thicker just to make the glass thick and strong enough that it won't break if you drop it?

Great idea! Unless of course the replacement of parts and broken phones is a core part of the business model.

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[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 23 points 3 days ago

I like AI and my phone to be separate. Chatgpt is just an app, it shouldn't be a core feature

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

"The only thing we bothered changing in the new model is we added a robot that hoovers even more of your data and then lies to you confidently!"

[-] superkret@feddit.org 90 points 3 days ago

Literally just give us phones that can do what they could do 10 years ago, with modern batteries.

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 72 points 3 days ago

this. put the sensors, audio jack, notification led, ir blaster back!

And fuck off with the ai!

[-] OpenHammer6677@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

LED notifications and physical keyboards. I miss my Blackberry

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[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago

My ideal would basically be a modern version of the lg v20 - give me that removable battery, headphone jack, microsd slot, etc and just give me the current gen on chipset, screen, camera, etc.

No AI, no preloaded nonsense I can't get rid of, I don't care that it could be 0.000004mm thinner without the jack.

Its never been about what the consumer wants, its about driving "features" that will make more profits.

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[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

The features customers actually want vs what the shareholders tell them they want.

[-] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

I still would take an extra mm for more battery life. At this point it's no difference if it's a bit thinner.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago

It feels like yesterday some guy was arguing against me here on Lemmy about my personal choice of wanting a longer battery life.

WELL LOOK AT ME NOW BRO

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

No bro, it's totally better to get 5-6 hours of battery and AI cause like it's so incredible bro

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[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think the battery system that's best for everyone would be user-replaceable batteries. That way you can have an extra battery on hand to swap in as needed, or even extra-capacity batteries that make your phone a little thicker for people who are okay with that.

Those of us who do actually prefer thinner, lighter phones can still have them (maybe with a slight increase in thickness to accommodate the attachment mechanisms). Plus bigger batteries are a huge waste of resources if the capacity isn't going to be used.

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[-] mexicanmamba@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I’m staying on iOS 18.0.1 without the AI Apple crap

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago

No! I don't care about battery! I want to become more dependent on advertising companies to arrange my daily life!

[-] lickmygiggle@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Give me a phone that’s 1.5 cm thick (before the camera bump) and lasts two days and I’ll buy fucking 10 of them.

JUST STOP. MAKING. THEM. THINNER.

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[-] afk_strats@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

People have been asking for thicker phones with more battery for years. Wth

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 19 points 3 days ago

Do people here actually use AI? And if so…for what?

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Fuck Siri with ChatGPT. I just want third party app notifications to actually play a sound and vibrate on my watch again. I really hope the next iOS update will fix that. I'm not the only one with this issue currently.

[-] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Siri, with a local model so that it can actually figure out what albums want to listen to, is one of the only use cases I have for an LLM

[-] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't get what those companies try to achieve by automating writing (by spewing statistically probable prose), reading (by badly summarizing text cobbled from excerpts without the ability to make any sense of it), art, photography, music, all standardized to the lowest common denominator.

I'm not buying a new device that will try to impose any of this hype. For now, Apple has decided to "punish" the users in the European Union by holding the Apple Intelligence features hostage. FINE BY ME!

edit: typo/phrasing

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[-] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago

When I replaced my 5 year old phone the only two benefits I saw was OLED screen (never going without again) and the battery life going from maybe a day to like 40 hours

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[-] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 days ago

Prefer no AI, require high battery life

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

I barely use my phone as anything more than a glorified pager. I don't need fucking AI.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It would be mice to have better battery life.

2008 and onwards.

Edit: was so confused about the answers til I noticed the error :-p

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