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This is fantastic news.
I wish they would ban it in Germany, too.
EU needs to step in
I love the convenience, but nobody gives a fuck about recycling or nature in the US. I called a few smoke shops on how I could recycle these disposable vapes with rechargeable batteries and they literally said to throw it in the trash.
You can simply search for a local hazard material or battery cleanup/pickup event. Most dumps will take them. But throwing them in your regular trash causes risk of fire to your house, garbage truck, and the dump. I hold onto all my old disposables to take to the dump.
I have my friends saving their empty vapes. I plan on making a backup battery out of them.
Genuinely interested, how would you go about doing that?
Tbh I found someone doing it on YouTube.
It wasn't the InfinateSolutions' battery video, I hope. And if you haven't seen it, it's a must watch classic about batteries.
It pretty much involves taking a whole bunch of batteries and setting them up in a combination of series and parallel along with resistors such that the voltage potential between the two sides matches the target voltage.
But I do believe that is missing a part of the equation. Voltage is how hard it's pushing, but there's also the question of how well can it replace that voltage when a circuit allows a current to flow.
Kinda like pushing something by bracing yourself against a wall vs pushing it by walking behind it. In the first case, you might be able to get it moving but the force will drop off as it moves out of reach, but the latter case will keep the force sustained until you tire.
I think that's called voltage droop and I don't know if it's a significant concern for batteries. It's based on the chemistry of the battery plus resistance of internal components (and any extra components you use to put it all together).
Though one thing that is a concern is that the voltage also drops as the battery gets low. If the circuit it powers can handle that, great. Otherwise you'll need extra circuitry to keep the voltage steady, like voltage regulators, and that will come with a higher droop.
Edit: adding berries on series increases voltage. Adding batteries in parallel reduces voltage droop.
Well,
A) LAME quit banning things, just let people smoke/vape/eat transfats/drink alcohol/smoke weed/etc ffs
B) GOOD fuck dispos get a refillable system, pod or otherwise. They're just better all around, better hit, better juice, better for the env, cheaper in the long run, etc.
C) smoke/vape/eat-transfats/drink-alcohol/smoke-weed/etc is the weirdest directory I have in /
I agree with both your points. But what this is isn’t a banning of vapes, it’s a mandate that vapes be reusable. You want a vape, bad idea have fun. But it has to be reusable because disposables do disproportionate damage to the environment
I mean, clearly a ban isn't effective, but I do agree reusable vapes are the way as I said.
How would we know? You have a wildly different situation as an example but the UK seems to allow all the same stuff but just not in disposable format. In my country you’d get some black market for that but people would just switch to pod vapes
Bans in my country typically have a huge black market element swoop in, but tbf you're right the UK's might not be as big as ours. Bans are never very effective though, doesn't work well for other addictive substances, like drugs, for instance.
It’s true that full bans rarely work, but bans are effective with comparable alternatives. Flavored cigarettes (except menthol) were banned in my country years ago and while people were mad I haven’t seen them since I was a kid and I’ve smoked my fair share of illegal pot with cigarette smokers.
That ban happened in my country too, but cigars were allowed, so all the flavored cigarettes literally just increased in thickness by about 45% and instead of paper used a composite leaf wrapping, Djarums are still around, Cheyennes are too, but vaping really dealt the death blow to their popularity because let's be real it's just so much better if we're considering flavors.
There was still a black market for the old Djarums for a good while, and after that afaik I still know a website that will illegally ship the old ones to me I found years later, but shipping is like $20 so you have to get a couple cartons and I vape instead of smoking now, so I'd like one, maybe a pack at best, and it's just not worth it.
This doesn't ban vaping.
As a regular enjoyer of vaping (used to be a pack a day smoker), this is great news. Fuck disposable vapes because theirs nothing "disposable" about them. Plastic, electronics, metals, and lithium batteries that people just fucking throw out their car windows like cigarette butts. That shit is gonna last for thousands of years. And y'all have seen those videos of people's phones and vapes exploding in their pockets when there's a puncture in the battery, right? Yeah let's just throw that shit into landfills and out of car windows and find out what happens.
Makes me wonder how many electric car batteries worth of lithium and rare earth metals is just lying in gutters around the world.
Also the cells are typically in pretty good condition, as the vape tends to run out of the flavoured/nicotine liquid stuff before the battery gets down to a state of charge that is bad for long term storage.
That's not true at all? It's literally always the battery that runs out first. Else you would burn the coils in them.
They're rechargeable lithium batteries, they should last years. Not a week.
True, if you could recharge them, but they don't include ports to do so.
Which is why it's a waste of good lithium cells, as the guy you replied to was saying
So why use rechargeable batteries at all?
Suicide drones use them too. Best energy density at the required power levels. (Zinc-air batteries are slightly better but you can't extract the energy in minutes.)
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