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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

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That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


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[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Almost as if they are doing it on purpose and are just the more culturally liberal of the two Wall Street parties... πŸ€”πŸ€”

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Someone like AOC and Bernie will never be allowed anywhere near actual power. God damn money.

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[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Democrats sit here and use memes to beat themselves up over being such a shit bunch of losers and Republicans would have claimed victory even if Trump lost and very likely would have had their followers shooting guns about it. Yeah there's a disconnect somewhere.

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

It's funny because no one on here was talking about the how bad the Democrats' strategy had been before the election, yet now suddenly everyone is an expert on what went wrong

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Yeah, everyone who spoke up was told to shut up. Already white middle class liberal Americans are scrambling to blame anyone but themselves and the democratic party. Liberals are not a challenge to fascism.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I talked about it and got straight up bullied. I shut up about 45 days before the election because it was just harmful at that point. But you can not bully people into voting for you. You can not tell them the economy is great when they're in pain. You can not transparently be the puppet of a foreign government. You can not tell your base to get excited about people they've hated for literal decades.

The list just goes on. You can not win an election by enforcing a top down attitude. The Republicans worked ground up. Yes they did a lot of lying and gaslighting. But that brought people in and they worked from that during the actual campaign period. The Democrats did nothing to educate people and then told them they were wrong during the campaign.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You can not tell them the economy is great when they’re in pain.

This is a big thing in most western nations right now. The "economy" does not mean a healthy middle class, it does not mean higher wages for people, it does not mean affordable heating/food/shelter. I can see people struggling to make ends meet, and nothing pisses them off more then being told the "economy" is great. Basically the wealth inequality at this point has mostly removed the middle class and people being told the economic equivalent of "Git Gud"

[–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

And when those people complained that they're literally unable to make a decent living despite working hard, they were told "you don't get to complain, you're a white male so you live life on easy mode".

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago

That is liberal identity politics which everyone hates. Real leftists like Sanders and AOC have never said anything like that.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is just pattenly untrue.Unless you litterally live I. a corporate news echo chamber, the writing for this has been on the wall, and being discussed as such, litterally everywhere.

However, it was also being downvoted at a preposterously high ratio. So while it was present, Lemmy (and reddit too and pretty much all social media) was dutifully ignoring and abusing those saying that Kamala wasn't winning.

Not only that, but there were bans, and significant bias in moderation behavior to support the building of that echo chamber.

So no. Only if you live in a self construct d bubble was this not obvious since the convention.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, its funny comparing online to real world discussions.

Most people I talked to seemed to never like Harris but all agreed Trump was worse. This tracks, makes sense, and the ones that did not think Trump was worse would vote for him.

Compare that to here where you had every negative thing said about Harris come with some heavy baggage (like .ml accounts) or out right dog piling.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

They were. You called them Russian trolls and ignored them.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

"You're a Russian bot sowing division! These shills will disappear after the election."

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

I made this meme a while back. Got downvoted.

[–] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

I mean, I said Harris was a sure fire way to a Trump presidency. Does that count?

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This image never fails to force a chuckle out of me.

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[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The DNC would rather have Trump than a progressive is what I've realized. We've been abandoned since '16

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