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Automatism in the age of the children of Unix.

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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Once upon a time we thought that inviting people to join the Information Superhighway would bring them together and herald an age of unity and shared purpose.

We didn't realize that we were opening the noosphere to subversion and attack.

It wasn't long before weaponized memes were deployed to deepen societal divisions. Old antagonists brought their wars to the digital frontier. Commercial entities outcompeted their FOSS forefathers and to reshape discourse. Engorged vectors emulated human creativity and threatened to forge new underclasses.

Was the utopian dream wrong? Were we naive to believe technology could unleash humanity's potential? Or are these mere birth pains of the future we were promised?

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don’t blame me, I deleted all my social media years ago. Now, I’m just using it for my crippling addiction to pornography

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago

Now, I’m just using it for my crippling addiction to pornography

Bless you for keeping the spirit of our forbearers alive.

[–] mod3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A technology is never inherently good or bad, it merely has potential. It's about the human intents behind the application of those technologies.

For a while the Internet truly was a beautiful utopia, in many ways. It was a huge shift in our history, and yet so very human. It was pure, used for reaching out and taking in, sharing, connecting. A shared soul, or brain if you'd prefer. Then some other entities started establishing their presence, and they didn't like that. They'd rather subvert those key purposes with their own, applying their resources and influence to mold the net, and with it, the people connected to it. They were quite capable and discreet, such that our collective cognition didn't even notice all the novel ways it was being twisted.

But it doesn't matter, because the Internet still is all those beautiful things it once was, and it can be so many more. Just look at this very random thread we're on. A handful of people, from who knows where, each with their own crazy histories, each their own thoughts. Here, by chance or destiny, exchanging those brainwaves. That will never change. And that's where the true potential of the Internet lies. Just like others used the Internet to do unprecedented things, we will too. As we have before.

Hoping is never wrong.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

the election has put me in a strange mood and that combined with the nostalgia (good and bad) of the past from things like that poster on the wall is so hitting very hard rn; jfc this is going to be stuck in my head all day today. thank you for sharing.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

When Trump won in 2016, I binge watched the entirety of Star Trek TNG and DS9. It was therapeutic to escape for a while to a world of logical people who try their best to rise above their base impulses.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

when i binge watch star trek i select episodes to watch based on a topic or theme. i'm almost done watching episodes with portrayals of excelsior class ships and i'm thankful that i watch start trek like this because it provides excellent mental health pauses from my own election coverage binging. the mini mental eye-bleach-like endorphin high that i get when i notice tiny details that i missed when i first consumed star trek as it was released plus the mini nostalgia rushes from the notables times i saw the episodes i selected i for the themed binge; is all sort of like re-remembering trek, but out of order so that i can appreciate it in a different way. i find it keeps old memories alive like: waiting in line for the premiere of movie #6; or the shock of seeing the new klingons in the first movie; or unsuccessfully begging my fiance to let us have our wedding at the star trek experience in las vegas.

i also developed the habit of starting my election coverage binges with democracy now before anything else. I find that it does A LOT to sooth the anxiety i've been feeling trapped by the election and i think it informs my opinions better knowing that everyone's wary of traps and that the best traps are the ones whose targets are unaware that they're inside of one.

[–] kakafarm@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

I have to recommend a certain Star Trek: The Next Generation episode analysis by Ross Scott of Accursed Farms.

It analyses Symbiosis, a sorta forgettable (on first inspection) humanoid-culture-of-the-week episode. Ross Scott has a knack for looking at fantastic things with a pair of very realistic and practical eyes that I find very amusing. It was made during the first months of our SARS-CoV-2 apocalypse, so keep that in mind (see spoiler).

punchlineIt was a time when "supply chain disruption" was a very hot buzzword, and is the main point and the punchline of this video.

SYMBIOSIS: A STAR TREK APOCALYPSE

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Good news, we're on track for WWIII, which happens before humanity gets its shit together!

[–] mbt2402@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

techno utopianism, the synthesis of defence lab hacker culture and the new left has inherited the flaws of both. the disillusion of the children raised on this heady mix was inevitable. nostalgia beckons, the punch card and mainframe once a symbol of dehumanization is now a quaint museum piece, sublime objects of engineering prowess. i could spend my whole life exploring the intricacies of these old systems. the dream of connecting people through computers is perverted into the goal of connecting to computers. "ah, but it could have been different, if only my preferred programming language or paradigm had won out!" so we tell ourselves, nursing our pet projects. ahhh i'm feeling depressed now

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

yea

Save me Victor Glushkov, save me, save me Glushkov

[–] fairchild@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 weeks ago

thx for this community. it's not just the Artworks but reading the comments as well.. soothing.

[–] astrsk@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago

Joining a mailing list wouldn’t be so bad if the mail apps weren’t so bad at doing mail.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

It really did, didn't it?

[–] vala@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like the capital has taken the internet away from us. Everyone is locked up in shit holes now and the free internet feels like some post-apocalyspe wasteland (Lemmy is cool but damn there are like 20 people here fr).

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It was supposed to make us smarter.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Narrator: It did not.

[–] mod3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, but it did. It also made us lonelier, but not by our choice.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I was meant to surf the internet superhighway and instead I'm inundated with hell and misery.

[–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've recently been watching a recreation of a old .nsv IPTV channel called RantTV. Most of the stuff on there is like from 1999-2005. Very old, even before YouTube. Most of the content revolves around this man called Sean Kennedy. Very fun to watch him yell and rant comedically into the mic. Mostly talks about government control, coperations, how great hackers and internet pirates are for society, "our current culture/society", paranoid-esque shit, etc. (And it has a Bad Religion song at the end of one of the shows, which I love)

Can't help but see how the landscape has changed in 20 years. How newspapers and TV and entertainment used to be so centrally controlled and limited, but now it has become so decentralized, you can literally find anything on the internet. How bunk conspiracies theories are now so prevelant, that QAnon has worked its way into office. How anti-vax rhetoric is so prevelant now that the U.S. government used it as a psy-op against foreign nations.

Anyway, I can't help but think of RantTV when I read this quote. Hits real hard.

[–] pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

COME JOIN US!

Happy to see this mentioned here. RantMedia basically invented the whole idea of podcasts before the term even existed and they played a major role in establishing the hacker sub-culture. AFAIK their online radio ran basically non-stop for 20 years until 2019.

Patrolling with Sean Kennedy (both seasons) is on archive.org and still worth a watch today. Some of his tips are still applicable, (to this day I still go by his sanitize your products, you're not getting paid to promote a brand) and the rest just makes you sad, seeing how things changed over the decades.

Sometimes I wonder where the fucking man ended up. I know he wrote a few books but basically disappeared from the internet in the 2010s.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The Capacitent Sun scorches the frayed edges of a once-lamenated advertising poster. The disheveled fastenings still clinging ecstatically to the decaying concrete. A rogue piece separates itself, and catches the solemn eye of the wandering hacker. She stares at it, the ancient symbols and depictions reach through time to find themselves in her. "Learn more. Do more. Be more." Each period stung with some long forgotten but deeply ingrained urgency. Directionless, it pounded at the insides of atriums and ventricles like a machine that could no longer stand to be air gapped. Externally, she was frozen. Her brain fought the internal dissonance of messaging and reality. This is what they believed, that they would be alright.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago